Post stuff on election ![]()
Iām less worried about the actual results and more worried about going to work tomorrow and hearing my colleagues hopping around, thinking itās all gonna be sunshine and lollipops now because Bronco Bammaās going to save the world! (Iām no Romney supporter, but where I live and work, itās almost exclusively liberals and socialists I gotta deal with)
Its not that.
Its the fact people think elections are legitimate and will change something in the first place.
Yeah, thatās pretty much what I meant - that my colleagues, friends and family believe that when Obama wins this election because of their votes orā¦vocal support (which I think he will), they will have achieved a great victory over the evil Republicans and everythingās gonna be great now. Example: Today, one of my colleagues told me, āIf Mr. Obama doesnāt win, God help us!ā Didnāt want to rain on her parade by saying, āRomney vs. Obama = Alien vs. Predator. Whoever wins, we lose.ā
Worse of all, they treat the elections like a football game.
Arrgggh repubs ganna beat the dems yaarrrr
Nawww repubs its tha dems that gotta win itā¦
I want fireworks. Best scenario is 269 vs 269. Man that would be hilarious to watch.
Runner-up is Romney wins popular vote, Obama the EVs. But frankly, I want Obama to lose just to see the meltdown.
Lol, yes perfect analogy. You even get the play-by-play and post-game analysis on CNN. ![]()
The other analogy I draw in my own mind is the whole red (Republican) vs. blue (Democrat) thing. It reminds me of when I used to play a multiplayer video game where you would individually choose to fight for the red team or the blue team. There was no difference between the two other than the color of your characterās clothing and yet, given some time, the players on both sides were making generalized statements about the other team (āBlue teamās a bunch oā fags!ā, āred team are cheaters!ā). I feel like thatās pretty much where weāre at in real life. People found a way to collectivize each other based on nothing.
Prediction: Obama by a wide margin (more than 5 points), both electoral and popular.
While Iāll be glad when this is over, I am apprehensive about what is going to follow⦠I think the floodgates are going to open up on CPI and the war-drums are going to start pounding for war in Iran and Syria.
Clayton -
Yeah, Obama will definitely win.
Here is a prediction: Obamaās re-election with āsparkā a grass-roots, White, Tea Party, Republican, freedom-loving, free-market-worshiping, gold-eating, tofu-hating, militianist, secessionist movement, causing a huge implementation of the police state to protect us from these domestic terrorists. Sandy was simply practice.
I hope Obama wins so that he can be blamed for everything that follows, rather than the spuriously āfree-marketā Romney taking the hit. Also, chances of a major war being started under Obama seem less than one under Romney (even if likely).
Because I donāt see those two things as part of the elitesā plans, I think Romney has a good chance. But Obama has been compliant with many of their measures, so they might just keep him. Either way I think the next president after Obama will be Republican, purely to shift the masses anger from this way to that and back again.
Out of curiosity, what do you guys, who probably donāt fall into the mainstream of the American political spectrum, tell people when they come up to you with a āmainstreamā question like, āDo you support Romney or Obama?ā or āAre you a Republican or Democrat?ā. After you presumably respond with āneither,ā what do you tell them after that? Iām guessing you donāt just launch into how youāre a classical liberal or anarcho-capitalist/voluntaryist, lol. Or do you just not bother explaining? I like to tell people where I stand because this is one of the ways I can spread the message of liberty. But Iāve only got their attention for about two minutes so Iām wondering if youāve developed quick ways of explaining your philosophy.
I ask because someone at work today saw my Gary Johnson/Libertarian sticker and asked, āWhatās āLibertarian?ā Are they like nudists?ā Iāve gotten so used to having deeper philosophical debates online at places like Mises and with a couple of my better informed friends that I froze when trying to explain myself to a random person. After talking to me, she and another colleauge pretty much pigeon-holed libertarians as supporting āāproperā small governmentā or āget government out of everything.ā Me: āYeah, something like thatā¦ā
Live in California. Pops is a republican. Said, hey pops, Romney wonāt win California anyway, how about voting for Johnson.
Okay, he says, will do.
Haha.
Bah. Just got back from voting. In most cases there was only one candidate. In retrospect, I should have just written in my own name, lol. Iāll do that next time if I vote at all.
Iām favoring Obama to win, but I think itās a question of how much of a hurry TPTB are in to keep things under control domestically. If theyāre in a hurry, I wouldnāt be surprised if the election goes to Romney, because there have apparently been many people threatening to riot should he win the election. TPTB may foment civil unrest in order to justify a crackdown and further power-grabbing. Otherwise, if they think things are sufficiently under control domestically, then Obama will definitely win the election. Iām sure they recognize that thereād be significantly more public support for future foreign-policy shenanigans with Obama as president than with Romney.
Iāll put it to you all this way: if I had the same goals as TPTB (generally speaking, maintenance and enhancement of US global hegemony), and I had the power to decide the election, the above would be my thought process.
My Dad just wrote in the good doctor. My Mom is doing the same after work.
YEE-HAW
I hope Obama wins. He and Romney have the same stupid ideas, but at least if Obama wins the Left will get what it wants, and itāll be on their heads, while they try and explain away all of his failings or resort to vapid rhetoric to turn them into victories. Whereas with Romney thereās this lingeriing misconception that heās for free markets. So no matter how socialist he is, itās the market to blame for his socialism.
Bring on Obama and let the rest of the world learn from this stupid monkey-faced imbecile. He can have it teleprompted all he likes that āyou didnāt build thisā whilst the US racks up mountainous debt with China, where entrepreneurs actually are building things, and he and his court of jesters along with that raving lunatic, Warren, continue to stuff their faces on the produce of the market while deriding it.
I cannot wait for the day that he and that bitch get what is coming to them. Maybe a bullet built by his own contractors, heh heh. I also hope he nationalises the US banking sector officially. Let the nutcases in Europe see what happens when he does that.
If it has to be between the two clowns, I feel the same way as you. Iād rather give the Obama crowd everything they want so when shit gets really bad, they canāt pin the blame on the supposed ācapitalismā of Romney and they canāt say that foreign military intervention is solely the fault of the Republicans. In short, I want people to at least learn something.
Itās going to be Obama because thatās just how the game works. The four-year mark is just a referendum and a chance for the masters to crack the whip. As long as the incumbent has been dutifully doing his job and hasnāt committed any major political blunders, he will be rewarded with a second term. As far as I can tell, Obama has been a dutiful lapdog for TPTB.
Clayton -
If we would learn what the human race really is at bottom, we need only observe it in election times.
-Mark Twain.
How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America?
-Anonymous-
A politician should have three hats. One for throwing into the ring, one for talking through, and one for pulling rabbits out of if elected.
-Carl Sandburg-
If God wanted us to vote, he would have given us candidates.
-Jay Leno-
The problem with political jokes is they get elected.
-Henry Cate-
Politics is the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich, by promising to protect each from the other.
-Oscar Ameringer-
When I was a boy I was told that anybody could become President; Iām beginning to believe it.
-Clarence Darrow-
Donāt vote, it only encourages them.
-Bill Connolly-
Take our politicians: theyāre a bunch of yo-yos. The presidency is now a cross between a popularity contest and a high school debate, with an encyclopedia of cliches the first prize.
-Saul Bellow-
If voting changed anything, theyād make it illegal.
-Emma Goldman.
Plenty more from they came from.
Well just did my civic duty and donāt I feel all important! (not really) Figured Iād lend my circle-filling expertise to Johnson, and there were some local tax increases I wanted to vote down.
I actually think Romney is going to win, the young tend to go liberal and many in the younger crowd is either apathetic toward Romney and Obama (rightfully so) or is playing Halo 4 todayā¦
You guys actually make a really good case to vote for Obama, seeing as people think Romney supports laissez-faire, if some economic disaster happens under his presidency it could set back the real case for capitalism many many years.
