Primal diet/lifestyle thread

Depends on the individual. If your ancestors domesticated cattle or goats, then youre probably ok. But do some reading on pasteurization, thats what got me off of most milk. The cows should eat grass and the milk should be raw.

I’ve heard everything across the board when it comes to raw milk. Some say it’s incredibly good for you, others say drinking it is just ridiculous due to the immense dangers.

Well the danger is that it (like any food) can be contaminated by harmful bacteria. Raw milk isnt supposed to sit in your trunk for 8 hours in 90 degree weather. Its not even really supposed to sit in the fridge for a couple of days.

Its important to remember that pasteurization, preservatives, and the like were all invented for a reason. They may not have known that it was bad for you, but they also didnt know how to deliver raw milk safely and in the vast quantities demanded by the market. So when you remove modern “solutions” you need to solve those problems allover again, by yourself. Just drink the milk the day you buy it, I guess. You can get pasteurized, grass-fed, non-homogenized milk at whole foods. Its basically an act of terrorism to try to get raw milk these days anyway.

Dairy is the difference between paleo and primal.

Can anyone please tell me where I can get grass-fed meat that won’t make me go broke?

Seriously, everywhere I look, the good stuff you need to truly follow the Paleo diet the correct way would make Bill Gates squirm. I’m really trying to get in shape here.

How much are you paying per pound?

Anyway, you do not need filet mignons nor New York steaks; so, go for the less expensive cuts.

To answer your question, go to farmers markets, where you can buy directly from the farms.

I tend to buy the non gmo milk.

Non homogenization

whole milk millk.

Right now I haven’t been buying grass-fed due to the outrageous prices. I’m still on the grain-fed stuff. However, since switching to this primal diet, my weight has already begun to drop. We still have a lot of carbs in the house that we have to use up before we can say that we’re completely primal.

Going canoeing wearing my vibram five finger flows in aquatic camouflage. Who else wears vibram five fingers?

Yeah, I already partially implement the primal diet. I intend to slowly ease myself into it fully. Not sure if I will go with the full-scale paleo version. There’s a lot of debate about whether certain foods should or shouldn’t be included in a diet (e.g. potatoes, almond flour; the sweet potato seems less controversial), and I am going by their nutritional value more so than whether they’d comprise part of the stricter paleo diet. Luckily there’s a lot of materials on the topic online. I’ve ordered a couple of books and recipe collections on it to get inspired.

Strictly speaking, not every ethnic profile will benefit as much from it (Asians apparently can get away with more grain consumption than us whities), but in my case as I am a mixture of northern European and mediterranean ancestry, I pretty much fall into the groupings that do, and so avoid grains, legumes and dairy as much as possible. There’s exceptions like Greek yoghurt, which you can consume as long as you moderate it.

I agree with others that it’s important to keep fit on top of it, but the diet has the potential to rectify a lot of health problems grain, legume and highly refined carb consumption seem to bring about. I

Malachi, I have a long second toe (Celtic ancestry not Greek) so when I tried on a pair of Vibrams they didn’t fit too well. I’ve seen where people have altered their Vibram’s too fit the long second toe. I’d like to know if you tried the Fila’s, Evoskin or other toe shoes for comparison?

I would like to see some (one?) of the finger shoes also have grounding to hopefully receive those benefits as well.

I’ve been working out since I was 15, and I’ve learned that the most important thing to maintaining a healthy diet: Being lucky enough to have good genetics.

After that, avoid carbs and drink water instead of everything else (minus tea and milk).

However, the Paleo diet seems to do the trick–I’ve unwittingly followed it loosely my entire life, and I’m 6’4", 195 lbs with 6% body fat. However, true health really has nothing to do with the measurables, someone can be “overweight” and in far better shape than a skinny guy.

But good luck to y’all, I have a cousin who has lost 20 lbs in the last two months basically just cutting every carb from her diet.

I have not. I wanted to try the fila model, but the size/color combination was out of stock. I was excited because they are one half to one quarter the price, but they didnt half half-sizes which I thought was ridiculous. With vff’s I recognize the potential for a misfit but in my opinion the design has accounted for that. If you pay close attention to the toes, the sole material can “roll out” while the upper stretches. It just requires a break-in period. Its not unheard of to have break-in periods of several months, as most people are simply not accustomed to the feel. If its just one toe, I would get a pair in classic style and wear them for half an hour a day and see if the toe stretches to accomodate. Although again I recognize the possibility that they “just dont fit” in fact when they hit the scene I was amazed that they seemed to fit everyone who tried them. I noticed the specific design of the toes during my own break in period.

I’ve been eating 95% paleo right now, and my weight has been dropping…but I honestly don’t see a real difference in the way I look or the way I feel.

Maybe it’s because I do online courses, and I’m sitting at my desk practically all day. What can you do about that when you have to sit around all day?

I’ve been told there’s a period of transition for some people, especially if you might have had some trouble regulating blood sugar before. In the meantime, I would imagine energy would be an issue.

My advice would be to pick up a really physical hobby. A martial arts class or rock climbing or whatever…personally, I like outdoor stuff best like canoeing, but when I lived close to a good fencing club I found that was a great workout too. I also run, and I try to weight my workouts (safely) toward quality mileage versus LSD.

Put on some muscle doing something fun, and make it a high calorie-burning thing, because you don’t have endless amounts of time to devote to it.

Secondarily as you get older you’ll find the computer jobs lead to repetitive stress injuries. Being strong and flexible goes a long way to preventing that.

I’m not quite sure I understand what you mean when you say “versus LSD”

Quality-paced running as preferable to long, slow distance running.

LSD isn’t always “junk mileage” but it’s good to maximize the benefits of a running program by a proportionate blend of threshold, repetition, interval, and easy paced running.

The LSD of a program is sort of active recovery, it’s best used for that rather than the ONLY or major component of a running program. Especially for somene with a primal lifestyle in mind, who wants to avoid the slogging of slow-and-steady exercise and sensibly replace it with some work that pays higher returns.

I see. Well thank you for the information.

No problem! If you want some help designing a running program let me know or PM me, I’d be happy to help.

RE: something way back on this thread, I Love my Vibram 5 fingers. In warm weather, they are awesome for canoeing, too. I run in mine. I have the original Bikila type. I’m hankering after some of the better looking newer ones though. These puppies don’t really wear out though!

I am gonna start adding free running to my daily routine of walking and standing.

Less emphasis on style:

Free running in a forest: