For the people who raise doubts about moving to New Hampshire with the Free State Project for more liberty:
What are you reasons for not being too hot about the project? I know some people on here have said NH’s legal system is messed up when I brought up this topic before. What other reasons do you have for not wanting to join and move?
I live in Europe and US immigration laws suck.
I recently got a green card and NH is where I’d like to live in the US, but since I can hold onto it for a couple years I’m gonna wait and see what happens with the world. Myself and some fellow Austrians a forming a circle in South Africa and hope to start a branch of the Mises Institute here too!
For myself, primarily it’s friends, family, job, entrenched social connections in the local community, familiarity with my surroundings, etc. Myself and family are friends with a lot of farmers, mechanics, doctors, etc. in the area, it just doesn’t make sense to drop it all and move to NH, government breakdown or no. That, and there already is a small liberty movement in the area, even with funky stuff like alternative currencies and barter networks. In the 2010 elections we had a Mises University graduate who ran as an independent for Congress and got something like 5-8% of the vote. Not stellar but very strong for that type of candidate. I just don’t see the advantages that NH offers right now, at least to me.
Winter.
Yes it’s that simple.
Ditto. Also, I’m not really interested in fighting for freedom, I just want it. So long as New Hampshire isn’t substantially more free than the rest of the country, I don’t see why I should move there. I’d still be paying income tax, I’d still be subject to the same federal laws.
Job! Working in film you have two options… NY or the peoples republic of chinafornia. Besides liberty is infectious… I might just bring some more folks over to the light side. Also, its real close to Canada. NH will be the first to go if they invade. 
Because it’s New Hampshire.
its not only that the legal system is messed up, the bigger picture I was trying to get you to understand is that the legal system just represents how NH is simply the lesser of the evil on paper but in reality, the government acts exactly the same as other governments. You are not better off moving to NH simply because a good amount in the community hold FSP ideals. It is really that simple. it actually would be nice to see you reply to this view without enabling some type of logical fallacy to go with it…
I think that taking over a state is impossible. The more feasible option would be finding a large enough place of land (Not an entire state) that a community can function completly independent in terms of food and jobs from multi national corporations. Then to form a City-State there and begin to demand to be released from under the jurisidiction of whereever they are at, but then want trade relations with it’s surroundings. Wouldn’t hurt to have a few rich people who sympathyize with the idea, like Peter Schiff, and will work to make sure it has legitimate representatives to fight for it.
You might be able to make it a tax haven and bring in all kinds of international money. Then, with that small amount of people it will make you all entreprenuers (AGH) and it will make more sense to lounge around and collect bills from all of the MNC’s hiding money from the governments of the world.
I’d still be paying income tax,
NH has no income tax. You wouldn’t be paying anything except property tax which you can find creative ways to avoid.
Then to form a City-State there and begin to demand to be released from under the jurisidiction of whereever they are at, but then want trade relations with it’s surroundings.
That would work except NH has no major cities. The largest city here (Manchester) is barely 100,000 people and Keene is only around 20,000.
That’s even better. The less people you have over the larger the area the better. Having less per capita population lets you stay outside of the definitions of “Cities” and stuff. The rich neighborhood where i lived got out of being annexed by the city because the population density was low enough. Their property sizes were large enough to fend of the city taking over and taxing them.
So the same goes there, you don’t need a huge amount of people you need a commanding amount of land and the well coordinated real productive cooperative capability of those people.
I want to move to the USA and I would definitely want to live in new hampshire for a while!
I meant federal. As nice as no state income tax is, the savings would end up being lower after considering the difference in cost of living (Baltimore is a cheap city) and opportunity costs of leaving my current position with my current company which has no presence in NH.
Nevada has no state income tax either. And it has much better weather. And it’s close to California, which has even better weather. And it has Reno and Las Vegas…which means a lot of the groundwork for the social aspects of libertarianism is already done. So why DON’T you move FSP to Nevada with all the better, more desirable, (i.e. more easily sold to new prospects) characteristics of the area?
Get me a job and i am there.
I would move to Nevada.
Nevada has no state income tax. And it has much better weather. And it’s close to California, which has even better weather. And it has Reno and Las Vegas…which means a lot of the groundwork for the social aspects of libertarianism is already done. So why DON’T you move FSP to Nevada with all the better, more desirable, (i.e. more easily sold to new prospects) characteristics of the area?
That’s why.
Isn’t something like 80% of the land in Nevada owned by the Federal govt?