Neo, his failure to substantiate his major claims. His definition of rape culture is mushy and unproven as existing in the US. He hasn’t cited anything of substance to support his case. No numbers, nothing in the legal system, no theoretical distinctions which would prove the existance of a significant rape culture. It’s typical feminist unfalsifiable bullshit.
NonAntiAnarchist, I don’t believe you understand by what one means by “culture” - it has nothing to do with numbers or systems, what definition ever of cultural worldviews had to do with statistics? Culture exists in the US, so why wouldn’t worldviews surrounding a certain act also exist?
Insofar as we’re defining rape culture as a legal thing, Bert hasn’t added any evidence to prove the existence of this in the United States. If we are talking about rape culture as acceptance of rape and undermining the act’s seriousness, I think that Bert has a good point and has provided some evidence as to its existence.
Neodoxy, so far I think you’re the only one who gets it when I talk of rape culture, because I’m not talking about numbers, statistics, or legal codes or any other thing; I’m talking about the worldview elements of a culture that make rape tolerated or at least projected into something comical (rape jokes, or joking about rape/raping someone) - and the topics of patriarchy, sexism, sexual objectification are areas of concern, because understanding those areas can help one understand rape culture.
If someone says the victim deserved it because she’s a “drunk loose slut” or how the people at the party are making remarks about how she “looks dead” when she’s drunk and unconcsious, the right thing to do would to make sure she’s safe - but that was not done. She’s was ridiculed in the process and ridiculed after while taken advantage of.
The following is from this article So You’re Tired of Hearing About “Rape Culture” it’s not the full piece, but this is generally what people mean and are gearing towards when discussing rape culture.
Rape culture is when a group of athletes rape a young girl, and though there are dozens of witnesses, no one says, “Stop.”
Rape culture is when a group of athletes rape a young girl, and though there are dozens of witnesses, they can’t get anyone to come forward.
Rape culture is when a group of athletes rape a young girl, and adults are informed of it, but no consequences are doled out because the boys “said nothing happened.”
Rape culture is when a group of athletes rape a young girl, and we later find out that their coaches were “joking about it” and “took care of it.”
Rape culture is when a group of athletes rape a young girl, and even though there is documentation of the coaching staff sweeping it under the rug, they get to keep their jobs.
Rape culture is when a group of athletes rape a young girl, and one of the coaches involved in the cover-up threatens a reporter - saying, “You’re going to get yours. And if you don’t get yours, somebody close to you will.” – but the town is more worried about keeping their coaching talent than his integrity.
Rape culture is when a group of athletes rape a young girl, take pictures of the process, and it becomes a source of ridicule along social networks, whitewashing the crime with hashtags.
Rape culture is when a group of athletes rape a young girl, and then joke about it on video – saying, ““She is so raped,” “They raped her quicker than Mike Tyson!”, “They raped her more than the Duke lacrosse team!”, and she was “deader than Trayvon Martin.” – while everyone else laughs.
Rape culture is when a group of athletes rape a young girl, and the town is more concerned with preserving their football program than the fact that their children are attacking others without remorse.
Rape culture is when a group of athletes rape a young girl, and the mainstream media laments the fact that their “promising futures” have been dashed by their crimes – as though THEY are the victims.
Rape culture is when a group of athletes rape a young girl, and even though she’s been through enough, the 16 year old victim’s name is shared on national television.
Rape culture is when a group of athletes rape a young girl, but because it happens at a party where both sexes were drinking, complete strangers on the internet argue ferociously that she is to blame for being attacked.
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Rape culture is when a group of athletes rape a young girl, and members of the community issue death threats against the victim.
Rape culture is when a group of athletes rape a young girl, and it is documented across social media channels, and the media informs us that the takeaway is to be more careful about what we post to social media.
Rape culture is when a group of athletes rape a young girl, and when a cover-up is exposed by a group of hackers, we call them “terrorists” and the culpable “victims.”
Yeah, I’m talking about Steubenville. Tired of hearing about it? Ok, let’s talk about something else.
Rape culture is when the Steubenville is far from the first instance of athletic clubs covering up sexual violence allegations. See: Sandusky, Michigan State 2010, Arizona State 2008, University of Colarado 2006, University of Iowa 2008, Lincoln High School 2012, University of Montana 2012, Marquette 2011, plus this research (and there’s more to find if you dig)
Rape culture is when universities across the country do not report rape to the police, but handle the matter via “honor boards” - ultimately shielding perpetrators from criminal consequences.
Rape culture is when universities threaten to expel a student for speaking out about her rape (without ever identifying her attacker) because it’s harassment to talk about her suffering.
Rape culture is when a comedian has a long history of making jokes about rape and sexual assault, is defended from backlash by the comic community, and doesn’t lose his fan base.
As well as If You Need More Evidence of Rape Culture, We’ve Got A Good One For You.
