No it is how your define words. You keep attempting to intentionally mis-define the word “libertarian” and when you cannot support your wrong definition from a single dictionary you change the argument.
Strawman
No it is not irrelevant, Dr. Block used the phrase “limited government libertarian” which you claim cannot be used.
Wrong about what? Dr. Block used the phrase “limited government libertarian”.
No, it is a red herring. You’re trying to avoid answering that you hold unlibertarian positions, by arguing the definition of the word from sources.
You’ve even gone so far as to say the work LvMI scholars do on property rights is “irrelevant”.
I’ve asked you very simple ans straightforward questions.
Do you support monopoly government, yes or no?
Do you support the use of coercion, yes or no?
Did you read Kinsella’s article (that you claim is "irrelevant)?
If yes, where was he wrong? If no, why are you here again?
Think twice before responding again without good faith to these questions.
It is not a strawman. You claimed Kinsella’s views on libertarianism are irrelevant, did you not?
Again, think carefully before responding.
you know, dictionaries record popular usage. you are asking the man on the street what libertarian means when they are not political philosophers.
some people are political philosophers and if you want to discuss with them you might try listening to what they say. they probably have a more precise vocabulary and definitions than your man on the street.
anyway:
Main Entry: lib·er·tar·i·an
Pronunciation: "li-b&r-'ter-E-&n, -'te-rE-
Function: noun
Date: 1789
1 : an advocate of the doctrine of free will
>>>2 a : a person who upholds the principles of individual liberty especially of thought and action<<<<
you dont uphold it when arguing with me about the role of the state. in that conversation i uphold it. so maybe we should call you a ‘part-time’ or ‘occasional’ or ‘often’ libertarian ? is that a superior compromise?
My position on anything has nothing to do with the definition of the word “libertarian”
Irrevelant to the definition of words in the dictionary.
Yes you did to change the subject because you cannot support your definition of the word libertarian from ANY dictionary.
I stated Kinsella is not a dictionary and thus irrelevant for defining words.
you do know that the dictionary is compiled by human beings who are themselves, not dictionaries…
Nothing to compromise, I am a libertarian by definition. So deal with it.
you are by definition less of one than i am though. arent you?
no, you are an american nationalist.
Nope
Nope, wrong again.
Nope. I’m completely right.
You are a pro-war jingoistic amerikan who believe that a bunch of murderers and thieves - known as the amerikan government - has the ‘right’ to tax their fellows humans and has the ‘right’ to murder people if the people refuse to pay. And that is justified in the name of the ‘constitution’ or the ‘american nation’ or some similar trash. You are a nationalist - a blind supporter of the nation state - deal with it.
/facepalm
All lies as usual.
Not at all. You either support the amerikan nation state, its unlawful monopoly, and taxation…or you are a libertarian.
This argument is going nowhere. Maybe you could should agree to disagree. Obviously you guys aren’t changing each other’s minds. You’re even going so far as to call this guy some pretty nasty things, and even I agree that government = mafia, in any form.
How do you guys feel about Harry Browne? He was part of the political party, even if he espoused that government was a mafia, too. He did some great things for the movement.
Bleh. “Maybe you could should?” I meant, “Maybe you guys should..”
You understand what a dictionary is, correct? How about linguistics? Dictionaries most certainly do not set the definitions of words. They reflect common usage. Language changes over time, and dictionaries are expected to change with them. If they don’t, their definitions become incorrect. The dictionary does not decree the proper definition of a given word; it is a record of the common definitions.