The First Church of Mises

While I agree with Nisbet in many ways, I’d say that cultural individualism is mainly the result of the welfare state (or spoilt kids from rich parents which has the same effect, with similar causes). In a pre-state/failed state society the more group-orientated people will quickly out perform most of the cultural individualists. In a sense that also means that more free markets are incentives of more cooperative behavior as opposed to situations where there is more guaranteed income. This would be so, as there is a need for being more cooperative in order to stay in the game.

Regarding this I recently came across something quite interesting:
http://iis-db.stanford.edu/evnts/6247/Bowles_paper.pdf

What you hear is the sound of rustling pages. I’ve got my introductory text probably about 50% done (timewise) and it’s about 50 pages and shouldn’t grow to more than about 80. Another 50 pages of excerpts would be the perfect companion.

Clayton -

Interesting… so do you see a connection between the tendency to demand subsidies and handouts and a basic, technical inability to meet one’s own needs?

Clayton -

Booker T. Washington was the man! I highly recommend that people read Up From Slavery. He identified the problems plaguing blacks at the time correctly and he actually went about solving them practically. Sounds like you have probably read it, but it’s a quick read if you haven’t.

Fantastic, I’m looking forward to it. If you’d like my help with the latter part, just let me know.

Well yes, if people have little idea how to take care of themselves, and how to develop skills for employment or an entrepreneurial mindset, they will be more likely to feel the need for state sponsorship and the necessity of an overarching nanny and welfare state. There is also simply the importance for an attitude of self-reliance. Even at the time of the New Deal, many in American society felt it shameful to take government handouts and refused out of principle. There is no way that there could have been the mass demand for more and more ‘free stuff’ that we see today.

Yeah, it’s definitely one of the great autobiographies, and a short but engaging read. It’s also interesting how he was - and still is - reviled by ‘activists’ who didn’t care that he was dealing with workable solutions. To them, it was ideology first and foremost that mattered.

So, I’m looking at Aesop and I have to say that I’m impressed by the lessons on property rights, etc. However, there are two problems I’m running into - what’s a good, free edition available online (some of the “translations” are just awful!) and what are, say, the top 20 or so fables that should be included? If I get a solid edition (this one looks pretty good), I can read through and select on my own, as well.

Can you point me to the sections of Socrates you have in mind?

Also, I’m looking at the Tao Te Ching and I like it overall but don’t know what to excerpt. Did you have some other work by Lao Tzu in mind?

What do you think of the Dhammapada?

Clayton -

I might have an idea or two :stuck_out_tongue:

Here’s my latest draft of the reader. I intend to trim Lucretius and Stirner because they take too many pages to make their point. I’m tempted to trim Aristotle but everything he says is just so damn relevant.

Clayton -

Sorry for the late reply, I’ve been away for a few days. The reader looks really good: there’s a good balance between economics, philosophy and politics, as well as having a crossover between them. Under each heading it would be good to have a description and context of the author, and a brief clue about the purpose of the passage. I would add to the collection Franklin’s short essay The Way to Wealth, and also possibly something from Horace and Montaigne (I’ll have a look through and get back to you).

As for Aesop, perhaps include at least some of these:

The Ant and the grasshopper
The Goose that laid the golden eggs
The Dove and the ant
The Fowler and the blackbird
The belly and the members
The cock and the jewel
The Fir and the Bramble
The Fox and the Grapes
The Fox and the Sick Lion
The Fox and the Stork
The Frog and the Ox
The Frogs who desired a king
The Honest Woodsman
The Horse and the Donkey
The Lion and the Mouse
The Lion’s Share
The Lion, the Bear, and the Fox
The Mountain in Labour
The Snake and the Crab
The Tortoise and the Birds
The Two Pots
The Walnut Tree
The Wolf and the Crane
The Wolf and the Lamb
The Woodcutter and the Trees

With Socrates, maybe it’s better to just have some quotes from him which will suggest to the reader to have a look at him for themselves. It is more his method of elenchus which is important rather than anything he says in particular.

I seem to remember Lao Tzu having some insightful fables in the vein of Aesop, I’ll have a look when I can. As for the Dhammapada, I’m not really familiar with it.

Also, I’ve compiled a small collection of quotes which I’ll PM to you.

@Aristippus: Thanks for those… I’ve been reading the fables and even showing some animations of them to my kids (search “aesop hoopla kids” on YouTube)… the discussions they give rise to are just invaluable. We’ve talked about property, contract, retribution, deception, envy… and despite the fact they are only 6 and 7 years old, they are able to reason in depth about the issues involved.

Here’s the latest draft of the reader. I’ll incorporate your suggestion to put a brief blurb to preface each one to give the reader context. For convenience, here’s a table of contents in order (most of these are excerpts):

  • Max Ehrmann – Desiderata
  • King Solomon – Book of Proverbs, NIV
  • Epicurus – Principal Doctrines
  • Cicero - De Finibus Bonorum et Malorum
  • Epicurus – Letter to Menoecus
  • Aristotle – Nicomachean Ethics
  • Ludwig von Mises – Human Action
  • Ludwig von Mises - Theory and History
  • His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama – The Four Noble Truths
  • Confucius - The Great Learning
  • Lucretius – On the Nature of Things
  • Henry Hazlitt – Economics in One Lesson
  • Frederic Bastiat – That Which is Seen and That Which is Not Seen
  • Frederic Bastiat – The Law
  • Max Stirner – The Ego and Its Own
  • Nicolo Machiavelli – The Prince
  • Etienne de la Boetie – The Politics of Obedience
  • Max Weber - Politics as a Vocation
  • William James – Principles of Psychology
  • George Boole – An Investigation of the Laws of Thought
  • Ernst Mach – The Science of Mechanics
  • Miscellaneous Quotes

The first two are supposed to act as an “exhortation” to the reader, encouraging him to read the rest of the excerpts. Then, I jump straight into Epicurus and just quote him en toto. Then I copy/paste the first whole chapter of HA, and selections from Theory and History that touch on some of the foundational things that are just assumed in HA or dealt with later in the advanced sections (such as the subjective nature of valuation, etc.) Then I reinforce the Epicurean/Misesean perspective with the Dalai Lama, Confucius, Hazlitt and Bastiat. Then I jump into some more advanced stuff with a challenging excerpt from Stirner talking about the true nature of love (that it is, essentially, selfish, even when it purports to be selfless). From there, I break over to politics with Machiavelli, Boetie and Weber.

From there, I shift gears into natural philosophy (because Epicurus underscores again and again that natural philosophy is the proper defense against mysticism and myths which are among the primary obstacles to ataraxia for most people). Here, I start with the science of the mind (James on psychology), then the science of deduction (Boole on logic) and then physics or, at least, mechanics (Mach). Mach’s excerpt particularly impressed me and almost the entire thing has stayed with me since a couple years ago when I first stumbled across it. He effortlessly places a very “mathematical” discipline in its proper context alongside the wider issues of history and human action. This kind of perspective is very rare among scientists who tend to be very turf-oriented. “Not my department”.

I expect to do a lot more editing before I settle down on a final list. Here are some of the criteria I’m using to decide what to include/exclude:

  • Non-copyright encumbered material (preferably available in digital form so I don’t have to type it… I might be willing to type up several pages if there’s something mega-awesome that’s just not available in digital form.) The Miscellaneous Quotes is a good idea because I can “fair-use” a lot of stuff that can’t be excerpted in large blocks.

  • Include enough context to really allow the author to frame the concepts in his own words and not edit him to death with ellipses.

  • Reinforces the essential aspects of the science of human action both as regards internal action (psychological self-training) and as regards external action (application of means to the alteration of one’s circumstances in order to attain one’s ends)

  • Challenges common dogmas antithetical to the above-mentioned aspects

  • Ancient (but still relevant without significant modifications) preferred to novel. In part because it has “stood the test f time” and in part because we have a super-abundance of critical philosophy nowadays and I think we could use more of the old-fashioned positive philosophy (aka “This is how the world really works…”)

  • Newer treatments of a subject that substantially revise the ancients but still preserves the wider context of how the subject connects to human action and life is preferable to specialists who are “careful” not to step outside their “area of expertise” and speak only of the subject-matter in isolation from any other consideration.

  • Accessible without excessive specialized jargon (Human Action kind of sets the bar here… if a 10th grader would have to look up more words than required to understand the same amount of text in HA, then it’s too specialized)

  • In a phrase: mind-expanding for the mainstream individual who has not been introduced to the philosophy of liberty, even someone who considers themselves “well-rounded”, i.e. someone with a liberal arts education

Clayton -

Some of the texts are already available on audio as well.

I yanked my motto from Tao Te Ching, “Better to rumble like rocks than tinkle like jade.”

Another update to the Reader. Work-in-progress on the main book. I think the title is going to be “Morality and Self-Discovery.”

I’ll reproduce the Summary of the main book:

Summary

This book is not a short pamphlet or article only because there are so many fallacies surrounding the study of the subject of morality and right living generally. But the essential principles I am trying to communicate are the essence of simplicity so I will state them at the outset in summary form before proceeding to defend them at greater length.

We suffer, so we act. It is suffering which defines our particular ends and the application of means to the removal of suffering is called human action. When action succeeds in removing the conditions of our suffering, we are satisfied. Satisfaction[1] is the end which is never a means to any other end; it is the end to which every other end is a means. I will call this process of suffering and action the unfolding process.

As events unfold, so also our life unfolds. With the lessons learned from the unfolding of many events, our aptitude in removing suffering or avoiding it altogether should increase. I will call this the self-discovery process.

The study of the correct means for the attainment of a given, real end – on the condition of voluntary action – is the subject of economics. The study of the correct ends for the attainment of satisfaction is the subject of moral philosophy. There is no bright-line division between these subjects except to note that moral philosophy is, importantly, not restricted to conditions of voluntary action.

The process of self-discovery does not operate as efficiently in every individual at all times. More importantly, the conditions for efficient operation of the self-discovery process are complicated by the rapid changes in man’s environment since he settled down and became agricultural, roughly ten thousand years ago. Hence, in order to achieve efficient operation of the self-discovery process in one’s own life, it is necessary not merely to follow one’s innate developmental process of self-discovery but to augment this innate sense with methodical study.

This book is a methodical study of the self-discovery process.


[1] If you prefer, you can call it happiness, nirvana, ataraxia or something else; the correlation is strictly formal

OK, so I’ve done some preliminary research and I believe the correct answer is, in fact, astrology. Hold on before you flip out, and let me explain why I’ve come to this conclusion.

The popular version of astrology is bastardized. Of course, there’s nothing inherently immoral in palmistry/fortune-telling but what people don’t realize is that this is just one way of looking at astrology. I’m going to make the case that astrology is actually a serious art/science and is, when understood in this serious-minded sense, actually the glue that binds all of human thought together.

The primary interests that the public has in astrology are: fortune-telling and romantic prospecting (and, to a lesser degree, self-psychology). The first two interests are, I think, infantile - at least, they are based on an infantile concept of the relationship of the heavens to the self and to one’s future. It’s not that there’s no relation between these, it’s that “reading the stars” won’t give you the magical answers you’re looking for.

So, if astrology isn’t about what popular culture gleans from it, then what is it about? I have to give credit to Santos Bonacci (lots of YT vids are available for the interested) for getting me started, though I will caution that he is a bit loose with his facts (his etymological theories, for example, are downright atrocious) and not too critical of sources. That said, the man is actually very insightful and he is nothing short of a real Renaissance man. What got my attention in Bonacci’s presentations of astrology (what he terms “astrotheology” I think to distinguish it as the academic study, in contrast to the daily practice, of astrology) is that he shows how astrology connects everything. “Everything is interrelated” - Alexander von Humboldt (h/t Bonacci)

Bonacci doesn’t offer a very thorough justification for why there should be a subject that connects everything but I think he has inuited the fact very well. In the modern age of hyper-specialization of the sciences, it is not at all obvious that there should be anything that “connects it all together” but I will argue that there should be. Basically, science - natural philosophy - consists of rules describing the structure and unfolding of the physical world. Some of these rules are geometrical (as in the principle that two things cannot occupy the same space at the same time), some of these rules are causal (as in the law of inertia which is deduced by thought-experimental extrapolation of real experiments) and some of them are merely correlational (as in the law of gravity* and a great deal of the other laws of physics that are, today, taken to be facts of reality on par with the geometrical or causal facts of physics).

In addition to these rules, modern science consists of a body of methods for uncovering the facts of relations between things. Rules and methods comprise “what is known”, that is, that knowledge which has been distilled as far as it can be with the state-of-the-art techniques. But what rules and methods govern the discovery of the rules and methods for use in science? The answer is, necessarily, none. For if there were, these would then just become a part of the body of rules and methods we have already described. Hence - until human beings attain Absolute omniscience - there must reside in back of scientific knowledge (rules and methods knowledge, “left-brain knowledge” if you will) a permanent residue of human experience which is unsystematic, that is, mystical. I say “mystical” because it is a mystery. By definition, it’s a mystery. It works, yet we have no idea how. That’s the definition of a mystery.

Astrology has a wonderful claim for being the acme metaphor for navigating the terrain of the mystical. It is like the railroad-switching station of all knowledge. Here are some reasons why I think this.

  1. The roots of astrology lie in the observation of the heavens. This is why astrological traditions have arisen independently multiple times in human history. This commends astrology as a basis for methodical thinking and living because the stars are both eternal and unmediated - you do not need to consult an expert to observe the heavens, you merely need to step out your front door and look up and you are in direct contact with the eternal background of human experience. This eliminates the problems of bias and conflict-of-interest that afflicts mediated knowledge (e.g. the AGW debate).

  2. Astrology is extremely ancient, more ancient than written records of it and astrological ideas are at least as old as any recorded religious doctrines. Versions of astrology have arisen in every sophisticated culture (in several instances, independently - as in Mesopotamia, the Far East and the Americas) and have been extremely durable. Also, I think we have a disposition to be “conservative” and to feel more at-ease with the idea that our far ancestors whose minds were less tainted by the pushing-and-pulling of self-interested charlatans and myth-makers were in a unique position to think “purely”.

  3. Astrology and myth both have a deep interplay of give-and-take and this makes astrology, at least in part, a repository of cultural memory, which I will argue later is crucially important.

The progression of astrological science is so natural that its authority lies not in proofs or arguments but in its direct appeal to the intellect of the careful thinker. Again, Bonacci’s presentations have been hugely influential on me in this regard.

First, man starts by noticing the rotation of the heavens - the most obvious fact of nature to the first contemplative humans to ever turn their eyes skyward. Observing the heavens, he intuited directly their influence on the daily and yearly cycles. The sun rises and sets and this gives us the day/night cycle. The next cycle man observed was that of the stars - the solar year. This cycle gives us summer and winter. In correlation with the solar year is the yearly rotation of the stars, which becomes quickly evident to anyone who observes the stars each evening. The next cycle man observed was the lunar - its monthly cycle affecting women’s menses as well as the behavior of other animals. The final cycle he observed was the Platonic Year or great cycle, the 26,000 year precession of the equinoxes. In addition to the three great cycles (the day, the year and the great year), he observed the motions of the wandering stars (the Planets) and noted their epicycles with respect to the Earth, yet never do all 7 form the same pattern in the sky.

In order to track the yearly cycle, man had to create a reference in the stars. To do this, he needed some system for dividing the heavens. The lunar cycle divides the solar cycle almost in 12 - so man divided the heavens into twelve regions or “signs” and assigned to each of these regions a grouping of prominent stars as a mnemonic - these are the constellations of the zodiac. The twelve signs of the zodiac form a “stellar compass” by which we can track our movement around the Sun. This is the Indo-Persian-Mesopotamic-Greco-Roman-European system of astrology. Note that the Chinese zodiac also has 12 signs (I’m unsure if this is an independent development but my understanding is that Chinese astrology is independent of ours).

This ratio - 12 - is the basis of an astounding amount of organization within our cultural knowledge. There are 24 hours in a day (two divisions of each sign in its rotation in the heavens). There are twelve hours on the face of the clock. White light can be separated into 6 primary (red, orange, yellow, green, blue, violet) and 6 intermediary colors. There are twelve notes in the Western equal-temperament scale and 7 (the number of the Planets) notes in any major or minor scale.

Going further, 12 is also the basis of the Babylonian arithmetic system which, in many ways, is superior to ours. The Babylonians used base 60 (12 x 5) arithmetic with each “digit” being represented by a decimal sign from 0 to 59 (yes, they had something that acted like a zero!) One of the immense practical advantages of base-60 arithmetic is that the first several factors of 60 are 2,3,4,5,6,10,12 making it trivial to split things into these quantities. A shipment of 732 clay pots can be quickly split 12 ways (into lots of 61 each) in base-60 just using mental arithmetic. The mathematical sophistication of the Babylonians may be quite underestimated in the modern understanding.

But just as persuasive and satisfying - to the structured thinker - as the numerological divisions of light or sound, are the humanistic divisions that arise from the heavens. First, there are the binary divisions: day/night, summer/winter, pleasure/pain, good/evil, male/female. On top of these can be layered many other divisions (the five Platonic solids form the basis of further subdivisions within the astrological signs, etc.)

The true power of astrology lies in the fact that it operates on Humboldt’s principle that everything is interrelated. Music, light, visual art, time, astronomy, myth, history, geometry, number theory, psychology, sociology, morality, virtue, commerce, relationships, health, anatomy, etc. are all connected through this metaphorical switching-station which doubles as a mnemonic map of all human knowledge.

I want to give what I think is the correct astrological view that has been bastardized in regard to the planetary influences. Firstly, there is no doubt that the planets influence us. The Sun provides daily warmth, the Moon gives us the tides and the planets actually “wobble” the Earth ever-so-slightly in its orbit around the Sun. But something more fundamental is at stake here. The ancients believed that we are connected with the rest of the Solar system and the stars and I think one of the great failures of modern science are these false notions of gravitational action-at-a-distance as the primary organizing principles of the Universe - we are adrift in a black ocean of “empty space”, connected by the thinnest of threads only to the nearest star which is itself connected by an even thinner thread to the rest of the galaxy.

In this view, everything in the heavens is remote, distant, capricious, irrelevant. But we already know that this view is simply false. There is no empty space. Space is filled throughout with hot, electrically active plasma currents. There are currents flowing between the Sun and the planets, between the planets and their moons and between the planets and each other. High-frequency electrical signals are emanating from all the electrically active planets (most notably, Saturn and Jupitre). The Sun’s immense gravitational field reverses and sweeps over the planets on a regular, 33-day cycle.

So, all this fortune-telling business is a lot of folly for fools - it is all that astrology has to say to the shallow-minded who just want to know “what does my future hold?” OK, I’ll take that $15. Here’s your birth-chart and horoscope. Have a nice day. The fact is that your fortune-teller is inside your skull. With that mystical crystal-ball in your head, you can peer into the future and predict what will happen hours, days, months, even years in advance. Go and figure out what the consequences of your actions are. That’s what your future holds, dumbass.

As for the psychologizing aspect (personality types), I think that you have to understand that the signs refer both to man and to mankind at the same time. This is part of the fact that astrology is a switching-station. That is, we are all expressions of the whole zodiac, not just one particular sign. The psychological zodiac is not just a map of you, it is a map of man and you are a man. Can we actually systematically deduce the influence of the stars on particular individuals based on when they were born? Well, if we could, it wouldn’t be astrology, now would it? The practical use of birth-charting is that it makes you think about yourself, about the heavens and about your fellow-man and how all of these are inter-connected, which is really what human action is all about.

Astrology is frankly human. It is individualistic and yet connectionistic at the same time. It forms a persistent pattern within the respository of cultural memory and this pattern is self-reinforcing (for example, consider the effect of the division of the globe into 24 time zones has on how people organize other activities and knowledge wholly unrelated to longitudes or the rotation of the heavens, etc.) And it provides a persuasive framework for organizing a moral science, which is where my primary interest lies.

Finally, I want to say a word on the relationship of astrology to individual ends, that is, the market. I’ve written before that I think our education and law systems are atrophied by the cartelization/monopolization in these areas. This is a huge blow to human knowledge, the social order and even individual morality. Astrology, likewise, is suppressed but in a less obvious way.

Astrology stands in competition with the “major religions” - that is, those religions which currently or in the recent past enjoyed State-guaranteed monopoly status - because it offers a humanistic cosmological framework for all human knowledge and action. In other words, I believe that astrology in its ancient roots and its long “marginal” history has always been a fundamentally market-driven art/science. The travelling gypsies coming through town offered services that people were willing to pay for - divination, palm-reading, horoscopes, birth-charts, life-paths, etc. They were consistently demonized by the bourgeois as charlatans, devil-worshippers, con-artists, and all-round lowlifes. Nevertheless, they still managed to make a living at it.

I think that we need a Renaissance in moral philosophy and religious ideas. And I think that a revival of interest in astrology - and, just as importantly, further refinement of the art through incorporation of more recent insights and ideas, such as binary numbers, for example - could form a foundation for this Renaissance and drive innovation in the art of helping people organize their lives, their values, develop their character and their thinking with the best available tools ever devised by man in every department of action and knowledge.

Clayton -

This is what Newton himself had to say about his “law” of gravity: “That one body may act upon another at a distance through a vacuum, without the mediation of any thing else, by and through which their action and force may be conveyed from one to the other, is to me so great an absurdity, that I believe no man who has in philosophical matters a competent faculty of thinking, can ever fall into it.” And yet we have. And not only have we fallen into it, we have multiplied this absurdity many times over with relativistic physics.

I just bought a deck of Rider-Waite tarot cards, LOL.

Clayton -

So, I think I’m going to start organizing my ideas for a series of YT-casts; I even have a name for it… astro-liberalism. I thought of “astro-libertarianism” first but there are two problems with it… it’s very close to “austro-libertarianism” which is already an existing label, and, the word “libertarian” itself was invented as a concession to the assault of the progressives on the word “liberal” in the English language, an assault which no self-respecting school of thought should yield to except as a concession to those interested in new ideas who may need some prefatory introduction to the subject in the vernacular language.

The central idea of astro-liberalism is to re-expand the foundation of liberal philosophy; liberalism arose during the Renaissance which was a broad-based revival of the humanities, that is, all aspects of human art, endeavor, commerce, study, etc. But later, liberal philosophy became very cerebral and I believe it has become almost “trapped in the left-hemisphere” and this is part of the reason why the vast majority of people simply can’t relate to it.

Think about how a propertarian reasons out a conflict situation - “Adam attacked policeman Bob with a knife; Bob was forced to draw his weapon and fire in self-defense. The bullet ricocheted and hit Charlie. Because Bob caused harm to Charlie, Bob is liable.” Contrast this with how the ordinary person reasons about the same situation, “The criminal Adam was attacking officer Bob who had to draw his gun to defend himself… Adam caused Bob to accidentally shoot Charlie, so Adam should go to prison not only for attacking Bob but also for attacking Charlie.” And there is actually something to this latter view - after all, the person who first ‘causes a ruckus’ should be heavily censured and perhaps part of that is to pile on the punishments for all the ensuing actions from his crime. Who knows. But the propertarian way of thinking is so strange to the man on the street that it appears to him unhuman, alien. Even if it has the “correct” answers, there is no way for the ordinary person to relate to it.

In this way, liberal philosophy has inadvertently created a duality between the rational, on the one side, and the irrational, on the other. But this is not a holistic picture of man. Man is the whole package, rational and irrational together. I think people intuitively understand this and this is why they reject the idea that “reason overrides unreason” - unreason might not “make sense” when argued out, but it may also be a brute fact of human nature. And the rationalist worldview provides no answer to how to deal with this fact other than to simply pretend we’ve progressed toward greater rationalism.

So, I heartily believe we need to go back to our roots in the Renaissance - not by trying to have a Re-Renaissance - but, rather, by investing our energy into one of the true heirs of the Renaissance, astrology. Astrology reached new heights of popularity during the Renaissance and afterward - that despite the formal prohibition by the Church of many aspects of astrological practice, such as Tarot reading. Interest began to wane when the predictions of the astrologers regarding major astronomical events failed to come true. But the basis of this decline is the same false basis as people’s initial interest in astrology - as a way to outsource rationality (serious thinking) in comprehending and predicting events within their own lives.

As I explained in my earlier post, I think that the substitution of superstition for reason in astrological theories of physics or fortune-telling, for example, are unhealthy. And these “lower” elements of astrology are the primary interest of the public (and, by the way, this was true even during its heyday when eminent rationalists like Newton were devoutly astrological). But that doesn’t mean that that is what astrology is ‘really about.’ Astrology is the Holy Science - as Bonacci likes to say. It is universal (every culture has studied the stars) and it is comprehensive (all aspects of human life and existence fall within its compass).

Anyway, so there you have it … astro-liberalism.

Clayton -

OK, folks, here’s my first YT video on the subject:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAP4xBKTkbk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXDovAw_Lfk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEtiKsFiCkY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZEn915MUNI

Perks: Hear my voice for the first time ever! (And, by the way, I swear I don’t have a lisp, I don’t know what was up with me today, I felt groggy all day and just could not enunciate correctly… *sigh)

Clayton -

Good work on making a video - I’m thinking of making one at some point but then you’d have to hear my god-awful accent (yours isn’t bad to listen to at all). I have to say I didn’t see this astrological turn comingl! It’s an interesting way to incorporate non-rational aspects into the First Church so to speak, but I would like to hear more about how it applies to liberalism. I’ve had a quick read on astrological topics, and there seems to be some instrospective elements within astrology, for example in Ptolemy’s Tetrabiblos and in writers such as Dane Rudhyar. Is this sort of what you’re going for?

Also, the quote section in the reader is all screwed up from the glitchy Mises forum. When I have a new version I’ll email it or something in order to avoid that.

Absolutely. I think that astrology (of the serious variety … there are many kinds) can add a “framework for discussion” of the introspective dimension as well as those things that we know are physical but we just don’t understand well enough to pretend like we have it “pretty much nailed down”.

To give an early indication of where I’m going with this, let’s start with the day/night distinction - as Bonacci explains, the astrological wheel is divided into two halves that correspond to day/night, summer/winter, good/evil, pleasure/pain, etc. This association is literal not metaphorical! Good is what we desire, evil is what we shun, and the day brings the blessings of the Sun and warmth, where the night brings the curse of dangerous animals and privation. Summer brings the bounty of the Earth; the last summer we had is the only reason that 7 billion people are alive today. I think that’s pretty profound.

But, of course, this association is not scientific in the sense that it consists of well-defined stimulus-response or phenomenological correlations - after all, there are dangerous animals even in the day and the night brings dreams which can be a vehicle for introspection and probably for less-well understood connections to our exterior environment.

From here, the association can be expanded into more speculative realms, such as the “Ages”, i.e. the Gold, Silver, Bronze and Iron Ages as delineated by the motion of the Spring equinox through the zodiac over the 26,000 year cycle, resulting from the precession of the equinoxes. At this point, we are into pure metaphor but the metaphor is so persuasive and beautiful that it deserves respect on that basis alone. As long as you don’t slip into “astrological fundamentalism” and use the metaphor as a blind against genuine historical investigation, it is at worst harmless and at best may inadvertently lead us into discoveries we would never have otherwise made.

As for how this could be the case, I would point your attention to the much-ridiculed practice of alchemy - of course the alchemists were ignorant, why else would they have been doing alchemy? But if you look at alchemical writings, you see that the alchemical theories provided an impetus to try things. Without the impetus, experiment was largely relegated to accidental discoveries as a byproduct of other commercial activities. Someone left the salts laying next to the acid and both dripped onto copper and voila, a new discovery was made. But that’s a very slow way to discover things about the world.

Alchemy, despite its wholly speculative nature, provided a framework that generated interest, discussion and experimentation… a process that continued until we learned how to learn scientific chemistry. And because it is an integral aspect of reality, chemistry should still be integrated into an astrological framework. For example, astrology has always associated gold and the Sun (male, most desirable) and silver with the Moon (female, less desirable). It doesn’t matter that there is no “measurable” aspect of gold that would indicate that it should be the most liquid, most marketable commodity, the fact is that it is (or was and will likely one day be again). Gold is the most noble, the most desirable, the highest good, the center of the human economic order - just like the Sun.

And it goes further. Gold is money that “smart people can’t fiddle.” Just like the Sun - and astrology - is truth that smart people can’t fiddle (though 20th century physicists have done their level best to befuddle public understanding of this topic).

And this is the basis on which I want to found a liberal-philosophy-inspired moral theory. The Sun is the thing to which everything else in our environment is connected, it is the most desirable thing, it is the highest good, it is the final end as well as the final means. And if you listen to Bonacci’s lectures, he constantly underscores that the Sun is within you. You are the Sun. This is the principle of “As above, so below.” That is, the world above our heads is a map of the world within our heads. The final end is your satisfaction and moral philosophy flows from this fact. And just like we don’t need to prove that the Sun is the most important part of our environment (you can’t fail to notice this fact that is pounded home by the Sun itself each and every day), so we don’t need to prove that the final end is our own satisfaction. It’s the sort of fact to which you might draw someone’s attention only briefly in order to explain something else less obvious.

And this brings me to the “trinity”: beginning/middle/end, past/present/future, birth/life/death, creation/time/annihilation, disequilibrium/motion/equilibrium - It is triune in that these three aspects each play a separate and distinguishable role in the unfolding of events, yet they are one process. And, in particular, the process that regards moral action is this: suffering/action/satisfaction. The metaphorical assocations are beautiful and persuasive in their own right. Just as the Sun mediates a constant process of disequilibrium/motion/equilibrium, so YOU are the medium of a constant process of suffering/action/satisfaction. And this is the golden foundation of good and evil, right and wrong.

I can go further but I’m going to stop here as I haven’t worked out the rest in very much detail (I’m writing this post in part to jot down my thoughts so far) - basically, a lot of the Biblical language regarding the spiritual aspect of man can be meaningfully reclaimed and applied to this philosophy of morality. For example, consider the idea of sin. The bastardized understanding of this concept is violation of a divine statute. But the astrological view of sin is that it is self-treachery, it is forsaking the Sun, turning away from the blessings and abundance of the day and summer and instead bringing the curse and danger of winter and night upon oneself. As you see from above, this is not merely a metaphor, this is literally the case.

Clayton -

I don’t have a lisp,

That could just be a consequence of recording - your voice will always be distorted. You have to figure out how to use a “recording voice” that works.