People have made very good cases for why The Hunger Games is not statist war propaganda. You ignore what they say and go blah blah blag. You are a troll. Go away.
Translation: I’m right and you’re wrong, and I will derail your thread and call you names because I’m right and you’re wrong.
“Blah blah blag” would be a more respectable argument than anything you have to say right now. Your behavior is sad and embarassing.
What’s the point of listing Disney’s holdings?? What country has ever been bombed by any of Disney’s holdings?? Blaming the guy that printed up the propaganda posters is inane - it’s the people who are perpetrating the propaganda and the sinister ends to which they are perptrating it that is odious. The guy printing posters or doing artwork is just trying to put food on the table. But please, tell me, what are Disney’s sinister ends? How is Disney moving to take over the world and force inflationary fiat dollar hegemony on the world? Or Lion’s Gate. Or just about any private corporation you could care to name. I’d really like to see this.
Clayton -
I’m terribly embarassed.
Disney’s holdings were an edit to my post. I will address you when you address my post.
Until then, up tot his point you’ve offered nothing except to say that DIsney and this mythical “Lion’s Gate” don’t produce proaganda, which is patently simple to put it nicely unlike that other clown bouncing around in here.
I said no such thing - I simply asserted that I see no reason to believe your assertion that they exclusively produce propaganda. The fact that HG was produced by Lions Gate (excuse me for adding the apostrophe) is only relevant if Lions Gate only and exclusively produces propaganda. Otherwise, the fact that HG was produced by LG is irrelevant to the question of whether HG is propaganda, as you assert.
Clayton -
No. Clayton has not said that Lionsgate has never produced propaganda. He said that this particular film was not propaganda. What a troll.
Cool story bro. Now back to my response to you which you two have made a fine effort to completely blow past like intellectually honest gods. Here, I’ll recall it for you, once you respond I’ll clarify the purpose of posting Disney’s holdings:
You’ve invoked my self and my list. The list does have alternate names, but none of which you can decide, such as: The List of Forum Disutility, The List of Undesirables, The List of Shame, The List of WTF Users, The List of Constant Facepalms, and many more. I don’t know why the list would be called Your Mom’s list, unless your mother wants to add to some forum disutility as well.
@Andris Birkmanis
The fact that the government of the rebels turns out to be just as bad in many respects as the Capitol is very important (I tried to make the point earlier before this Lionsgate thing started).
In this respect, the Hunger Games are superior to Star Wars, which makes a point to point out within the extended universe that the rebels are NOT anarchists, but they are still beyond doubt the good guys. In the Hunger Games, not only do you have to take a step back and question whether or not the news order will be as bad as the old but the protagonist herself desides that it would be no better and takes action against it.
I really can’t stand the “every movie ever made is pure propaganda” hypothesis. We can’t assume that every bit of culture not created by libertarians was propaganda. If it is, than we’re all still cogs in the machine because I can guarantee that there are very few people who were not influenced by the external culture.
Clayton I patiently await your response.
James, Hollywood is controlled. Period. Which is why nobody has ever seen any decent content come out of Hollywood whereas anyone can go on youtube and find honest attempts at legitimate anarchist material within seconds. Two forms of media distribution, one has never had honest content ever, and that isn’t an accident. That is an empirical truth. Hollywood = controlled, or else you would see honest content at least once ever. But no. No amount of citing royalty from Disney (who also owns the propaganda conglomerate ABC) movies will end that.
The analogy that pops into my head immediately is dirt and rocks through grades of filters/sifters. While the fine sand will make it through all the levels no problem, the rocks will not, ever, no matter what. It’s how the system is designed. You can’t just stand in the sand pile at the bottom proclaiming that some of them are rocks, or that rocks occasionally get through, or that one day a rock will get through.
Everything which flows from controlled Hollywood is necessarily de facto propaganda. There is no situation where honest anarchist content will make it through the system. The Hunger Games is no magical exception, simply because you can’t fathom propaganda.
I see nothing to respond to. Perhaps you can phrase your challenge in the form of a specific question.
Clayton -
For the record, turning on a webcam and spewing stuff is a bit different than writing and producing a screenplay.
Amen, dammit. Precisely. The difference, then, is money and power. One system has never produced honest content and by all objective, empirical standards is a well oiled filter to block honest content while promoting mindnumbing propaganda.
In defense of Hashem, He converted me to An-cap from the campaign for liberty forums years ago. Or someone by the same name… 
To say he is involved in damage control is short sighted. Many movies can be interpreted in many different ways. Someone interpreted Avatar as pro-libertarian. Was that what the director intended? Who knows, probably not likely.
I have not seen Hunger Games to comment on any interpretations as having more merit.
Just watch it accusing people of misinformation. Humans are good at pattern recognition.
Ya Wibee that was me 
If I remember I fought a pretty good fight there for almost a year. I was starting to make a solid impact on the regulars (always minarchists).
I remember commenting on a few main-page posts; a ginormous raucus always followed. I’ll never forget that Tom Woods himself actually called me a “drone” for calling him out on his non-anarchist inconsistencies. Then recently in an interview with Lew Rockwell he mentioned that very recently Lew helped him overcome statist beliefs he hardly even realized he had. I was right then, and Tom was sort of a tool for saying what he said publicly.
I got into some other stuff for awhile and when I tried to go back to the C4L forums, I wasn’t able to log in. The only method for changing or finding your account information is a stupid “request form” that literally doesn’t work. I’m pretty sure I’ve tried to rejoin the community several times and have been utterly unsuccessful trying to make a new account.
Anyways its refreshing and reminiscent of the “small world” of the internet to hear you remember and to hear words of appreciation years after the fact. Thanks
It was because of you I listened to the audiobooks of ethics of liberty and for a new liberty. I had the same problem with the C4L forums. I think I did get somewhere with the request forum though because I was able to log back in. I had private messaged you on there about some finicky issues I had on abortion you had offered advice on. I usually go by Hyrax on other places.
I should be thanking you for unplugging me from the matrix.
Do you respond to private messages on here?
There were about 5 active users when I joined (which was pretty much around when the site started), and maybe 10ish by the time I was gone. I wonder how big that place is now, and what kind of impact anarchists, if there are any, are having there.
Ya I’ll respond to PMs. I usually check the forums at least once a day on days when I work, and several times when I’m off.
EDIT: Not to toot my own horn, but some of the minarchists there accused me of wasting my time and said things like I’m not doing the best job I could be doing of converting people (implying that was my intent) by arguing aggressively against the constitution on a website allegedly in support of such.
But the awesome thing is, is that I don’t know anyone in real life who has converted someone to an anarchist, on the internet or in person, no less 5 people. According to their own testimonies I was somewhat instrumental in the conversion process for at least 3 people on that site during just a year there. That’s not including the people I’ve had an impact on in person over the last few years.
I don’t know if I could really convert anyone any more, so I would like to read my posts from then to see what I was doing differently (better, I presume) and to remind myself not to let the “haters” get to me because I presume it was their attitudes which were instrumental in whatever psychological changes I implemented which lead me to a different arguing style.
The difference is competence and motivation.