Video games and War

Recently there was a post on this, but I can’t remember if the post addressed this question or not.

Targeting systems in M1 tanks operate like a video game (as well as other artillery). Given this, and our generations prone use of war-style video games (like my fav COD MW2), do you think such devices serve to dehumanize life of the targets? Blowing up real people would be like playing a video game.

Of course. The US military tried to build its own games around the turn of the century and they sucked. So I suspect, they got into bed with the major game manufacturers to build them. Hire a pro. It’s what I would do.

We have a society which encourages simulated murder as entertainment.

Now wait a minute, I want to play video games where I kill people and blow things up. The market demands such games, therefore they are made.

Based on your posts, you have sociopathic tendencies.

First, the market demands nothing. There is a market for such games. There is no such thing as a “the market”.

Second, economics is a value free science. But that doesn’t mean all choices are equal in purpose or effect.

Third, ethics matter, because while economics is value free, philosophy is not.

Not quite a video game.

No one is arguing against you. I think you would find that a majority of users on this board enjoy military first person shooters and the like. He’s addressing the relationship between the American military and the game industry (it does exist).

O my god, I do not have sociopathic tendencies.

You think I’m the only person who loves violent video games?

Maybe we’re all sociopaths. Lol. Come on LS, lighten up.

Only because those are the games people want to play. I played the hell out of CoD4. Not because the military told me to, but because it was fun.

I enjoy the occasional Grand Theft Auto rampage.

I feel like that’s a semi-decent movie. I enjoyed the trailer.

Have you read your posts on moral relativism? Have you read your posts on murder and violence?

Good lord man, do you really think you have portrayed yourself as anything but an ethical nihilist?

So you think a sociopath is just a “moral nihilist” who’s had a bad day?

It’s more than that. Profile of a sociopath

At most, I fit two or three of these criteria. At most.

You were marketed to. There is a reason why you play such games and other people do not. There is a reason why males play that game more than females. There is a reason why childless males play those games more than fathers. You’re the target demographic.

Based on the persona you portray here, you hit 1 thru 6 pretty solid.

Not that a checklist means anything. I know what a sociopath is, I’ve been around them before. And your moral relativism and the things you write here (whether honest OR dishonest) smack of this. Wilderness picked up on it the other day when he posted the picture of Narcissus.

You’re not the first one we have had here, and you won’t be the last.

The games appealed to me when I was a kid, they appeal to me now. No one told me to play them, I just did.

They’re a great way to do things I can’t do IRL.

Alright well, if I’m a sociopath who just plays violent video games to satisfy a desire to harm others, explain to me why other people enjoy the same games I do?

Are they also sociopaths? Or have we all been brainwashed?

Folks who have read your posts will know exactly what I am getting at. Your attempts (twice in this thread already) to hide in the crowd don’t serve someone who seeks attention very well.

You’re definitely not a fool, but you seem to underestimate that the rest of us can be fooled.

yes you do.

it’s obvious

Ok, fine, this is your forum, you’re here with like-minded anti-war proponents, I don’t expect anyone to take my point of view over yours.

However, The point I’m trying to make is that my behavior and/or desires are not some aberration or some incredible exception to the rule. I think MW2 has sold…a million copies by now? I don’t know, probably more.

What you’re trying to do here is rationalize away the existence of a very large market for violent video games by saying the desires have been inserted into people’s minds by the military or something like that. My genuine desire to play such games therefore becomes a rare exception to the rule rather than the rule itself.

I personally think you just don’t like what the market is telling you; namely that humans have at least a partially violent nature that can only be satiated through real or, in this case, imagined combat. I have said before that in times of peace, we make games of war. This is not a coincidence.

I don’t expect you to think anything different, you’re a huge anti-war advocate who’s also really into objective ethics and objective morality. You’re not going to think anything other than “sociopath” when reading my posts. But I’m being viewed through your lens, you’re not an objective observer, you’re biased. As are we all.