Being that I am confused as I can be, and assuming you just aren’t trying to goad people (which very well may be the case), I’m going to try to make sense of all this:
How many people here do you think are outright revolutionaries? I would hope it would be, at most, a very small minority. We’re cosmopolitan capitalists, bloody revolutions and heroic myths just aren’t in our blood.
Revolutionaries hate us, we are too bourgoise
Human Rights watch have claimed that these lootings were done by the authorities.
If it is not justly owned private property, then its owners have as such ceded their rights in proportion to their violation of the rights of others.
That said, I personally wish that they wouldn’t destroy artifacts and art. Cover all the government buildings in graffiti, or even destroy them, but save the artifacts. I am not, however, offended by the fact that those retaliating against government oppression do not share my valuation of historical artifacts, and it is certainly no justification for a condemnation of the Egyptian protests.
" It is clear Museums should be razed and burned to the ground as antiquity museums are obviously signs of statist imperialism!
Yes of course I ALWAYS cheer when the statist pigs tazer innocent people as that clearly relates to what signs ReVoLutionaries hold. Your direct leap of logical connections is breathtaking to behold."
It is clear you are cheering on corrupt police and a known torture regime, for trolly purposes. And justifying it through allegations or cynical assumptions about the political views of those at large. And hence they deserve the brutal repression that they have receieved thus far. There is no difference between this and saying anyone else deserves the same. It is no different than if this happened when it was not a revolution, in fact. Theft of private property occurs in all societies and in all scenarios. Whatever point you are making is moot.
Someone – probably the authorities themselves – looted the museums, so all Egyptians innocent or no are anti-private property. That is your own lunatic logical connection.
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/01/31/egypts-treasures-saved-looters-vandals/
Museum and artifacts should be burned? The museums themselves are probably not a target and I heard nothing about burning or razing. But the artifacts would be preserved with private owners. Quit being such an hysterical little strawmanist.
They have to be privately owned before they are private property, if that is the theory. But the failure to manage public property, is the failure of the state itself. In this case not because of the museum, but because the regime is hopeless. Yes, public museums are a sign of statism, if it is run by the state. QED. But you see museums, since they are no different than any other building, can be owned by private people. Imperialism? Now you’re being an idiot.
Are there actually signs that say give me liberty and laisse faire?
Signs that say “democracy” are still better than the status quo.
Yes of course the retail locations were not justly owned and the Egyptian National Museum is the embodiment of statist imperial oppression! When Egyptians look upon the museum and its contents of antiquity they seethe with rage at how it has violated their rights! How dare the state be responsible for such egregious violations! Deface the museum in the name of liberty!
But that is exactly what I say, who cares if someone does not value historical artifacts? Clearly they therefore have the right to destroy them! For such is your rights in a truly “free” society.
Certainly no condemnation can be made for those expressing their “rights” through looting and arson! Anyone who disagrees is a statist pig.
Signs that say “democracy” are still better than the status quo.
Really?
A republic (which is what most people mean when they say “democracy”) is more free than a dictatorship, yes.
Ah, yes just like I had expected the looters are state sponsored operatives who have been through the reeducation camps. As no such looting would ever exist without the state as all men are clearly angels and saints.
A republic (which is what most people mean when they say “democracy”) is more free than a dictatorship, yes.
Doesn’t that depend on the dictator vs. the potential representatives?
Ah, yes just like I had expected the looters are state sponsored operatives who have been through the reeducation camps. As no such looting would ever exist without the state as all men are clearly angels and saints.
Do you actually have a point to share? Because this is getting stale.
Any republic that more than nominally represents (i.e., functions as a republic and not a glorified oligarchy) the interests of even a relatively small portion of the Egyptian populace would be more free than the current Egyptian dictatorship. I was overly general in that first statement.
PopTech: knock it off with the smug sarcasm, already. Sheesh.
Any republic that more than nominally represents (i.e., functions as a republic and not a glorified oligarchy) the interests of even a relatively small portion of the Egyptian populace would be more free than the current Egyptian dictatorship. I was overly general in that first statement.
I’ll take your word for it.
PopTech: knock it off with the smug sarcasm, already. Sheesh.
I agree, it’s like you cam in here with a self-fulfilled prophecy and an ax to grind.
Here only anarchists can be smug, self-absorbed, demeaning.
Hopefully not, but bias is a very real concern. I would hope a double standard would be brought to people’s attention with specific examples.
Any republic that more than nominally represents (i.e., functions as a republic and not a glorified oligarchy) the interests of even a relatively small portion of the Egyptian populace would be more free than the current Egyptian dictatorship. I was overly general in that first statement.
Big mistake, I’m afraid. The copts especially will be having a rough ride:
One of the countries surveyed was Egypt, and among other discoveries, the Pew researchers found that 84 percent of Egyptians favor the death penalty for people who leave the Muslim religion.
One of the countries surveyed was Egypt, and among other discoveries, the Pew researchers found that 84 percent of Egyptians favor the death penalty for people who leave the Muslim religion.
Do you know how the current dictator treats religious defectors for comparison?