Let alone that this comes on par with calls for “nationalization of mines”, seizure of farms, overthrowing the government of Botswana and some other carnard from the ANCYL.
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You see what is happening in south africa is quite interesting. The older generation of the africans, they are just happy that there is a black government. The younger generation who grew up with an african government, they want all the free stuff. Free houses, free healthcare, free education etc. When the government due to ineptness and corruption do not deliver, these young and now (more) educated africans are demanding answers from their government.
So the corrupt african government will try any means possible to retain power, like any other corrupt government. The question remains, will the africans muster up enough sense to resist the government based on their poor performance or will they blame the whites and pillage the only wealth generating aspect of the country and lead it in to despotism.
Personally i hold the opinion that the ANC should be broken up in to a number of parties and this will allow for the africans to vote with their mind and not with their hearts so to speak. But as an anarchist it will not make any difference if there are afrikaans or african government in power, if they run with the socialist model it is destined to fail anyway.
This whole idea of “self hate” is an evasion of the fact that those being violent are responsible for the violence and destruction they cause and not those around them. Look at this:
“When you suffer from self-hate you project it on to those who look like you and so we have so-called black-on-black violence, where the victim of a hijacking is shot even when she has surrendered her car keys.”
He further goes on to blame litter on past white oppression, and driving deaths, etc. Considering that we still have people today in America blaming slavery for problems among the black community, I’d say south africa’s in for a at least a few decades of blame being used to justify every socialist policy its leaders can come up with.
Racism can only be ended by being opposed utterly. The solution to racism and inequality is not to oppress those who once oppressed you, it is to accept the truth that all human beings are equal and continue forward on that basis.
Whites apparently are 9% of the population. Even if they are all taxed 100% how this will even make a dent in paying for all the things that are to be supplied for free is laughable.
Why is that men of the cloth feel compelled to spend their time talking politics and politicians feel the need to spend their time lecturing us on ethics?
I have nothing for you to take, you thieving theological mandarin, arch-despot of the kangaroo court that exonerated the criminal masterminds behind Apartheid and passed the blame onto everyone of a certain ethnic group. Go ask Malema about his son’s trust fund.
But most of the time the “oppressors” have been long dead and somehow members of their race are cuplable. It’s an extremely dehumanizing, liberty-stealing form collectivism and the worst form of racism.
The proponents of statism will use any rationale to achieve their goal of attaining total control over all of the world.
Our proper defense is to put forth a coherent worldview, a philosophical defense of the philosophy of freedom and individual rights, and meet all issues with a consistent rationale drawn from principle.
The proponents of statism will use any rationale to achieve their goal of attaining total control over all of the world.
I may add that minarchists fall under the banner of statists… But this is excusable. I myself have been falling to using that what with all this AnCap influence on me
They maybe a couple of percent more, but as a matter of fact only a small fraction of South Africans do pay income taxes. Predominately those tax payers would be White. What Tutu also doesn’t mention is that it was that way “under Apartheid”, when the NP ruled as well. Tax rates in South-Africa were quite high and a substantial amount of those taxes were used for the explicit purpose to benefit Blacks (whose institutions and infrastructure had their own budget). Later it gets completely hillarious “Tutu said another manifestation of the effect of apartheid was the nation’s road death rate, which was regularly one of the highest in the world”.
Guess with that logic you can justify almost everything. One should not forget the Tutu was a proponent of boycotts and sanctions against South Africa, which hurt export industries and deprived many poorer people of their source of income. Maybe we should investigate a link here with the social ills still rife?!
As far as I am concerned, the whites raped and pillaged the blacks. I think every single black man in South Africa has a claim to recuperating stolen property. It Tutu calls for a tax to achieve this, so be it.
If you stole property from my father or from my grandfather, I smugly feel morally entitled to use mortal force to get my rightful inheritance back.
Really, can you get us verifyable examples for that. And if so how representative would that be?
But that has been always the case. Not only that there was a claims commission were people could claim “rights” to property, if they could even remotely argue for this. That would have included people that have been resettled, people that had to leave a farm after their working relationship was their, people that had some relatives burried at a place, etc. It should be noticed that under the National Party anyone expropriated was fairly compensated for that. So the only injury was arguably the coercion and not material loss.
Here I am losing you completely. That tax wouldn’t be based on having unlawful property, but based on the race and wealth of the group of people being taxed. Even Tutu doesn’t argue here with property stolen earlier (that’s what Malema) is doing. His argument is that “Whites did benefit from Apartheid”.
And I even wouldn’t really dispute that. Which brings us back to the beginning. What property did any Whites in South Africa “steal” from Blacks? Some Black proto-Marxist demagogues do indeed run around with statements that “Whites stole the land from us” and accompany that with slogans to “Kill the Boers[Whites]”. But they never can point you to examples or cases that would support their claims, not even archeological evidence.
Good. We agree on one thing. Let us start with this and expand from there.
Coupled with my stance on reclaiming original inheritance, the fact that the whites are not native to the area in question is enough for me to treat race as the best criteria for dividing up the thieves from the victims.
There is just no way for a white person to come out of apartheid without being the beneficiary of stolen property.
No and I do not care to because it seems soooooo self-evident to me that I assume it to be true – just like most libertarians assume natural rights theory to be true even though it is purely whimsical.
Uh… no. It is not the same goes for blacks because blacks are native to Africa. Everything posted in that article is garbage and can be debunked by pointing out that the blacks were coerced.
Yeah, I dare say it’s unfortunate that the British couldn’t massacre most of them with smallpox blankets like they did to the “natives” in North America or Australia, eh Charles? Then we’d be like “you”, and could just round up the survivors into “reserves” in the middle of nowhere without it looking dodgy, and we could all sleep peacefully at night.
I am not responsible for the South African state. Are you responsible for yours?