I was just wondering if anyone knew if there were any universities in england that teach austrian economics?
G.R. Steele teaches over at Lancaster. There’s also Kevin Dowd who teaches at Sheffield and has done some work on free banking. Other than that, we’re out of luck.
so if i wanted to study austrian economics would it be beneficial for me to do a degree course in economics or in something else and teach myself economics
Study to be an historian, then you could be a history revisionist, write some stuff that is sensational, yet true, and make lots of money. That way you can defend freedom, correct what’s wrong and make money at the same time.
I’m doing a first year economics course, at times it’s really frustrutating studying neoclassical economics, but you get used to it and you learn to appreciate it. Study Austrianism at the same time and you’ll get through it.
I bet the teacher just loves having an austrian in the class…
That’s what I’m going for. And think of it as “knowing your enemy”.
Lol, tell you the truth, none of my teachers have a clue who I am (let alone that I’m an Austrian) I rarely go to lectures.
Is that a good idea?
That was my attitude at first, and I don’t think it helps at all. You (especially, since you’re going to a top school) are better off going in thinking that it’s just a different branch of a science you’re very much interested in, albeit a branch that you find to have followed a misguided route (keep in mind Austrianism is both a neoclassical and a heterdox school of economics).
To be honest, I’m kicking myself for not studying harder in high school (although, for a rationalization: the system really did screw me over), but fortunately it doesn’t really matter where you do your UG. It just means I’m going to have to put my Austrian studies aside for a while so I can hope to get into a good grad school.
First year in the UK it doesn’t matter, I plan on going in the second year. Fact is, I’ll be suprised if I get less than a 2:1 this year, and that’s with minimal effort.
As I said to TheDesolateOne, I’m going to try harder next year. But the incentive system over here is slightly odd (i.e. students are basically told to try and gert straight 40s and that’s it).
Oooh someone else doing Econ in the UK. I’m studying it at York.
I gotta say the pure stats and pure maths modules are really killing me. The essay writing I can handle quite well I think, and the economic history module was great fun.
I have a Mathematics 1 and Economic Policy 1 exams upcoming and then that’s it, first years over. Apparently all we need to do is pass, and the marks for the first year don’t even go into the end degree, so it is quite strange, I guess they want to keep students, and cater to people who aren’t great at maths (like me). Hopefully next year I can get into a Mises Uni seminar during the summer, that should be great fun.
Right - back to studying matrices and calculus…
I think Jon Irenicus got accepted in York for graduate studies, York’s not a bad university from what I understand, it’s better than Exeter in the overall UK rankings I think (but I think Exeter has a better Econ deparment, I could be wrong though).
Maths didn’t go to well for me this year, which is a shame because I’m naturally quite talented at maths, but I just didn’t prepare for them. On the other hand, I loved econometrics, even if it is useless I’m definately going to try and get as much econometrics as I can throughout my course (I’ve heard grad schools like it too).
Yeah, it’s a really odd system. But I think the second year will be better as far as classes go, I’m really getting to like neoclassical econ, so as much as my Austrian studies are going to have to be put to one side, it’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make. I think people in Europe have a huge advantage, some of the good European graduate schools are ranked as highly as some of the top American ones, yet, in terms of entrance requirements they’re far less competative. Compare the requirements of GMU (a school which really isn’t ranked all that highly) with LSE (a top school for economics) and you’ll see that GMU actually has higher entrance requirements than LSE for their PhD programmes ( I think GMU requires 3.6 GPA whereas LSE requires 3.5).
York 81st in the world on this, Exeter not on it [overall, world, THE]
http://extras.timesonline.co.uk/tol_gug/gooduniversityguide.php?subject=ECONOMICS
York 23rd on this, Exeter 6th [economics, UK, times]
http://extras.timesonline.co.uk/tol_gug/gooduniversityguide.php
York 11th on this, Exeter 9th [overall, UK, times]
York 12th, Exeter 14th [overall, UK, guardian]
York 17th, Exeter 12th [economics, UK, guardian]
http://www.webometrics.info/rank_by_country.asp?country=uk
York 15th, Exeter 31st [overall, UK, webometrics]
As you can probably tell I’m a big fan of league tables.
Econometrics makes me go to sleep. But then I haven’t studied it at uni yet.
Oh me too, I love all this stuff.
As far as I understand it, Exeter has a pretty decent Econ department. People from Europe have a huge advantage over people from the US anyway, a masters and a UG from Oxbridge, LSE or UCL will do a good deal for getting you into most top grad schools ( I plan on going to one of those for my masters).
Out of interest why didn’t you go to LSE? It’s got more recognition than Oxbridge in terms of economics.
I’ve only really done the introductory course, but it’s really good stuff. I’m going to try to maximise my exposure to it in my UG.
Firstly there’s the general Oxbridge prestige.
Secondly, on all the league tables I looked at (Guardian, Times, Independent) Oxford scored more highly on the overall and economics rankings than LSE.
Thirdly, I am set on the tutorial system.
Fourthly, I like the collegiate system as well.
Fifthly, I didn’t want to go to a London university, due to the expense and there not being a proper campus.
Sixthly, Oxford has the libertarian society.
Seventhly, I like the architecture in Oxford and the city in general.
Eighthly, and finally, all my experiences of LSE and LSE students have led me to believe that it is a hotbed of socialism, communism and “social democracy”. I doubt I could have standed that.
I agree on the rest, but I don’t know about this one. Perhaps for bachelors (does Oxbridge offfer BA or BS?), but for graduate education LSE is more prestigous.