USDA Dietary Guidelines Worse Than Ever

Actually, Paleo diet tends to say no grain, stating that grains are post agricultural. However, many isolated tribes thrive with a moderate amount of grain that has been fermented to neutralize toxins within the grains such as phytic acid. Sourdough bread is an example, the fermentation breaks down the gluten and phytic acid, and more, making it digestible.

So Paleo ignores how Paleo man ate grains? That doesn’t sound very paleo. Don’t know what paleo you read. Probably more insane ramblings from cultural xenophobes. The author of paleo 2.0 says different. He says to avoid gluten grains, not all grains period. Kind of like what you guys probably say. Good to know you have a distinct message.

Paleo man, by definition, is pre-agricultural, so did not plant crops, so would not have had grains as a significant portion of their diet. The Weston A Price Foundation goes beyond that to say that fermented grains, such as sourdough bread, neutralize toxins in grains to make them more digestible.

And what on earth does xenophobia have to do with being against modern processed soy? Of course, it has nothing. You seem to be playing out of the co-intel-pro handbook. Like the folk who say that those against obama-care are racist. Its all nonsense, and just another example of abusive “conversation”.

Paleo man can still eat grains. Just not gluten grains according to the author of Paleo 2.0. Paleo man actually had access to grains, just not uberindustrialized/processed crap.

Its a way for you to beat up on the vegetarian/vegan crowd. Its a way for you to beat up on all the low-fat people pushing people to include soy because its a low fat alternative to meat. Rather than construct your own case, which you can’t even do, you just go after them because your real agenda is for them to be wrong, not for you to be right. I mean you’ve accused me of being from the GOVERNMENT because I don’t masturbate about how great high-fat diets are. Anyone different from you must be from another evil cult right? This is just a battle of the cults to you.

Well if you’re totally irrational and have zero evidence, and you’re just a faith based zealot, and your religion just HAPPENS to beat up on the vast majority of people culturally different from you, it gets to look mighty suspicious.

I never once mentioned veganism or vegetarianism, and I think it may now be time for you to state whether you fall into those categories, because that would explain your virilant opposition to what I have said. Fact is, you can have a low carb, high fat diet as a vegetarian if you have lots of raw whole dairy, coconut oil and eggs, so there you go, I just presented you a vegetarian diet which meets my specifications. However, I would warn against nutrient deficiencies in a vegan diet, but that has nothing to do with xenophobia.

And note, vegetarianism and veganism are IDEAS, they have nothing to do with race.

I’m not a vegetarian. But so what if I were? I’m still looking at the EVIDENCE. The EVIDENCE says I’m right and you’re wrong. That’s all there is to it.

But since you keep bringing up race, I will copypaste the definition of xenophobic for you. You know, so you can learn what words mean. Its the first step to becoming literate.

  1. An exaggerated or abnormal fear of strangers or foreigners.
  2. A strong antipathy or aversion to strangers or foreigners.

From here.

This deluded talk is really getting silly. I never mentioned vegetarians or vegans, never expressed any fear of them.

But now you mention it, a tendency to irrational anger is a symptom of low vitamin B12 levels which, is common in vegans and vegetarians and those on low fat calorie restricted diets. I’m not saying this applies to you, but maybe it does. Also, here is a statement on vegetarian/vegan diets from the Foundation.



Written by Weston A. Price Foundation



http://www.westonaprice.org/about-the-foundation/vegetarian-tour

February 4 2009 18:20


Vegetarians, especially vegans, are often dismayed at The Weston A. Price Foundation’s emphasis on animal foods as essential for health. This website tour will give you an overview of our position in light of the scientific evidence that humans need animal foods, particularly animal fats, for optimum health.



The Foundation supports raising animals on pasture as much of the year as possible, and opposes confinement operations, feedlots, debeaking, growth hormones, routine antibiotics in feed, inappropriate feed such as soy, and other practices that harm animals’ health and well-being, harm the environment, and result in animal foods that are not optimally nutritious for humans.



The Foundation believes that strict vegetarianism (veganism) is detrimental to human health. Vegetarianism that includes eggs and raw (unpasteurized) dairy products, organic vegetables and fruits, properly prepared whole grains, legumes, and nuts, and excludes unfermented soy products and processed foods, can be a healthy option for some people. However, some people have difficulty assimilating vitamins, minerals, protein, and other factors from plant foods. These individuals may need a higher proportion of nutrients from animal foods to achieve optimum health.

Again, you’re ragging on Soy. Who eats Soy? Who advocates Soy? Not vegans and vegetarians…

Do you have ADD or something?

Empty lip service/masturbation. Durr the foundation supports “good things”. Good job…