USDA Dietary Guidelines Worse Than Ever

Current USDA dietary guidelines are based on the flawed notion that cholesterol and saturated fat are unhealthy. They are unrealistic, unworkable, unscientific and impractical; they have resulted in widespread nutrient deficiencies and contributed to a proliferation of obesity and degenerative disease, including problems with growth, behavior and learning in children. The US government is promoting a lowfat, plant-based diet that ignores the vital role animal protein and fats have played in human nutrition throughout the ages.

The pyramid with its strictures against fat consumption does not recognize variations in human metabolism. Recommendations for fat restriction are predicated on the assumption that fat causes weight gain and heart disease; several recent studies have shown that that restriction of natural fats actually leads to more obesity in both children and adults, while the refined carbohydrates, polyunsaturated and trans fats that frequently replace natural saturated fats contribute to weight gain and chronic disease. Restriction of animal fats in children leads increased markers for heart disease and to deficiencies of vitamins A, D and K2, needed for growth, strong bones, immunity, neurological function, and protection from tooth decay.

Unfortunately this is what happens when families delegate their responsiblity for nutrition to the State. It sells its advice to the highest bidder and naturally, in an economy dominated by corporate monopolies funded by the inflation from fractional reserve banking, the guidelines are designed to promote the products of commodity agriculture. The products of mixed family farms which built the nation, from where the Founding Fathers were born and raised do not get a look in because they are the natural competition to commodity agriculture.

Read more here: http://www.westonaprice.org/basics/comments-on-the-usda-dietary-guidelines

I would like some citations for the research you claim, but otherwise I agree that government pushing nutrition is bad. It’s likely that there is no silver bullet for nutrition, but that instead everyone has his own thing.

I agree that meat gets a bad rap.

What would be more useful to the public (rather than a nutrition pyramid) is an activity pyramid including watching TV, sitting down, exercising, etc. Of course, I wouldn’t trust the government to make it, and it has no power to make it, but really, people need to see that sitting down actually increases your chance of death by heart related problems even if you exercise regularly. So stand up and exercise more.

/rant

P.S. Source:

http://www.sciencealert.com.au/opinions/20111108-22489.html which says:

Our research has shown that even when people exercise regularly, watching large amounts of television is independently associated with an increased risk of premature death.

And their citation:

http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/121/3/384.short

I don’t know that people actually eat the food pyramid. And whatever they do eat is worse than the food pyramid. So Idk how you can blame government’s (maybe bad) advice for the majority of dietary ailments.

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The pyramid is taught widely in public schools and people do use it to justify their habits if questioned a little more.

What people try to justify and what people actually do are very different things. The food pyramid is bad, but its still in the right direction compared to the standard american diet. By far the most important thing is to reduce calories, and the USDA is asking people to do that. So I don’t really see any major problems.

More grains than vegetables?

So what? Vegetables period is an improvement over what they’re eating now. And they’re saying that you should replace existing refined grains with whole grains. That’s not bad either.

We evolved from cattle.

Clayton -

We evolved from lots of stuff.

Sieben wrote the following post at Tue, Sep 13 2011 1:52 AM: I don’t know that people actually eat the food pyramid.

All schools using Federal funding for school lunches is forced to comply with the food pyramid. So for example, full fat milk is not allowed in schools, yet the vitamin D is necessary to utilize calcium and, fats in the cream stimulate metabolism meaning that skim milk cause more weight gain than full fat milk. This is why pig farmers feed skim milk to pigs.

In addition, Federal Penetentuaries enforce the guidelines.

Dr Price, in his book, devoted a chapter to the connection between malnutrition and criminality, suggesting that the use of the food pyramid in schools will exacerbate the number of criminals and that time in prison could cause amplification of criminal tendancies, particularly if inmates are in their teens and still developing physically. The Weston A Price Foundation is currently taking action against Illinois which provides a diet of 70% soy for prisoners: http://www.westonaprice.org/soy-alert/cruel-and-unusual-punishment-soy-diet-for-illinois-prisoners

One of the way this happens is that malnutrition leads to a smaller pallate and skull, leaving less space for the hypathalamus which is the seat of impulse control.

"deformed palates are present in 19 per cent of the ordinary population, 33 per cent of the insane, 55 per cent of criminals, but in no less than 61 per cent of idiots."

http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library/price/price19.html

Caption: The photographs of Dr. Weston Price illustrate the difference in facial structure between those on their native diets and those whose parents had adopted the “civilized” diets of devitalized processed foods. The “primitive” Seminole girl (left) and Samoan boy (third from left) have wide, handsome faces with plenty of room for the dental arches. The “modernized” Seminole girl (second from left) and Samoan boy (right), born to parents who had abandoned their traditional diets, have narrowed faces, crowded teeth and a reduced immunity to disease.

NOTE: I do not have time to provide citations for every claim I make, so please, do not criticize my comments for lack of citations but if you find a citation that conflicts with my comments then I will comment. Please play fair.

This video from Zoe Harcombe explains the link between obesity and compliance with the Foody Pyramid: http://vimeo.com/26994290

Also, here, Sally Fallon starts off with noting the Food Pyramid then, goes on to explain how it contrasts so badly with traditional diets: http://vimeo.com/10489302

@ Clayton: is that a serious remark? Cattle doesn’t eat grains anyway. It eats grass.

You cannot comply with the food pyramid in one meal per day.

Oh and I’ll need a source on this. As usual, your statements are complete garbage. See from memory all of my schools fed me pizza and cheeseburgers, which are high in saturated fat.

And this also doesn’t prove that people actually FOLLOW the food pyramid. Its another red herring. What do people actually do in real life Phil? Hmm?

Nice spelling retard.

Not only does that article have no outside citations, its claim is prima facie implausible. First, getting 70% of your diet from soy would be insanely expensive compared to alternatives. Soy calories are more expensive than rice, nuts, and milkfat calories. Second, this AGAIN does not prove that most americans are influenced by the food pyramid. Third, THE FUCKING FOOD PYRAMID DOES NOT ADVOCATE 70% SOY YOU MASTURBATING FUCK.

AAAAAAAAAHAHAHAH How stupid are you? 19% of the ordinary population has a deformed palate? Try 0.01% of the population in the 1950s had it. They don’t even keep track any more because its SO rare.

Oh my god… next you’ll be telling us that 48% of the population has testicular cancer from Soy or something. Nothing is too retarded for you to believe as long as you can copypaste from your propaganda website (which you have implied you work for… lolololololol).

At this point, you are INSANE. We’d ask for citations but they’d be oh… I don’t know… an open letter to the illinios prison system. Is that what you think counts as evidence? What WOULDN’T count as evidence Phil? What would the WOAP foundation have to say for you to not believe them? How off the wall do they have to be before you stop literally having BLIND FAITH in them?

Oh yeah. I also linked you 9 studies all of which you ignored. So I guess citations don’t even matter to you. Cus who cares about controlled studies demonstrating that you’re wrong; you already know the truth!

Wheylous wrote the following post at Tue, Sep 13 2011 2:08 PM:

@ Clayton: is that a serious remark? Cattle doesn’t eat grains anyway. It eats grass.

Indeed, cows are not supposed to eat only grains, but modern confined agriculture feedlot operations, (CAFO’s), feed only grain. This results in too much omega 6, and very little omega 3 and, a very limited supply of fat soluble vitamins A, D & K to name just two implications. Visit realmilk.com for local sources of grass fed milk. Unfortunately organic in USA does not necessarily mean grass fed.

_Sieben wrote the following post at Tue, Sep 13 2011 2:14 PM:

You cannot comply with the food pyramid in one meal per day._

Indeed, but most mothers have been convinced via marketing and propaganda to switch to low fat options at home. And at school, they comply by providing lean meat, skim milk, lots of starchy potatoes and by using toxic veg oil to cook in rather than heat stable saturated fats. The chips are fried in veg oil meaning that they are high in polyunsaturated rather than saturated fats and this is where the problems lie because these fats are not stable and they cause inflamation that causes heart disease.

As mentioned Sieben, if you are interested and require sources to believe me, then go look for some and stop asking for me to do legwork for you. It is common knowledge that most federal funding comes with strings attached. In this case, the strings are that schools comply with the USDA’s dietary guidelines. In addition, please provide details as to why you are incapable or researching these claims for yourself. If the weblinks and videos I have provided do not satisfy you, then that is no justification to get arsey, it is a reason for you to get off your hind end and do some of your own research.

So what? How much fat do the wind up with? Do they go from eating a diet of 50% fat to a diet of 40% fat? Or do they get to 10% fat? What do they ACTUALLY do Philtard?

Lol no they don’t. For example, the CA board of education’s program just says “ounces of meat”. And then fruits and vegetables (AAAA WHY SO UNHEALTHY?!)

Again, source. On both of these claims. A) That they use toxic vegetable oil and that B) Vegetable oil is in fact toxic to cook with. Sheesh.

Chips are low in saturated fat? Okay. What counts as low? Seriously put some god damn numbers down so you can be disproved you little twat.

I already have and they say you’re wrong. Whats more is that when I show you the sources, you ignore them because you’re an ideologue. So… I’m doing just fine. Thanks!

USDA dietary guidelines =/= food pyramid. And I just showed you a damn source showing that they do not in fact emphasize lean meats. So what the hey.

By my count, i’ve used about 15 links to studies and such. You have used zero. All your links are to your stupid little WOAP website. Talk about being a biased little re-re.

Would you spend hours of your time watching my videos? No. You wouldn’t. Because you have faith that you’re right. You haven’t even read the references that you throw at us. Its a TOTAL joke. You are debating on faith. Too bad faith doesn’t make you healthy.

Oh and you also completely ignored my counterevidence to your claim that 19% of the population has a deformed palate. So does that mean I’m right?

Philtard

You are sounding a lot like a neocon, Sieben:

libtard

Yeah. Cus neocons always ask for controlled studies.

Sieben what happened to your usual imperturbability? Please, no more insults.