This whole thread makes me want to pwn (read “murder”) some n00bs on some online games. But I’m probably going to end up with some nonaggressive exercise, or finishing up Defending the Undefendable.
On a side note, I’m very happy to have discovered the non aggression principle. I have always believed it. I always felt I could identify with both the man who owns many guns in his house and the pacifist, seeing defense or justice as the only legitimate form of aggression.
He knows how to have fun and you don’t? He knows the difference between virtual reality and reality? Plenty of people play violent video games,
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas = 9.4 Million
Grand Theft Auto IV = 8.5 MIllion
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City = 7.3 Million
Halo II = 6.61 Million
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare = 6.3 Million
Grand Theft Auto III = 6.2 MIllion
Testosterone.
Because the word “father” includes every generation (roughly everyone over 40) that never played video games as kids. PLENTY of fathers under 40 play violent video games. The younger the father the more likely they are to play since the demographics on most games is age related and has nothing to do with you being a parent.
Video games are great fun. Take GTA, you get to steal whatever car you want and run down civilians with it. Where else can you do things like this but in video games? Some of my current favorites are Battlefield: Bad Company Multiplayer where the objective is to steal the gold crates.
I feel sorry for people who deprive themselves of harmless entertainment all the in the pursuit of some cult like ideology.
That’s certainly possible and maybe I’m trying to read too much into his films.
Yes, Jewish revenge is one of the themes and nazis=evil was a standard cliche, but I didn’t get the impression that the good guys were depicted as totally good either. And the movie struck me as partially a farce/satire so it looks as if Tarantino was making fun of the revenge thing.
That’s a logical fallacy called an appeal to populism. Lots of people voted for Barack Obama. That doesn’t mean Barack Obama is right about anything.
It could well be that. Ironically, libertarianism (the real stuff) appeals to men more than women as well. Why, I don’t know. But the numbers seem significantly skewed that the case seems unassailable.
You assume that I am being deprived, by doing things which don’t simulate things I find offensive morally.
But because I find them offensive morally, not doing them, my satisfaction is increased. This is a basic praxeological truth.
As to pursuing a cult like ideology, if you think non-aggression is a cult like ideology, that’s your call. Even my own peanut gallery would beg to differ with you, and they hate my guts. Then again, these paragons of principle probably won’t stop hating me long enough to defend libertarian ethics.
Raising the bar is easy, jumping over it is hard. lol
There are a lot of more productive things (in my opinion) I choose to do, like create content for others to consume. Consumption is fine, but someone has to be a producer in the market as well, and producing is a good way to achieve financial independence. I don’t know anyone who got rich consuming. There may be some of the folks out there, but I suspect they are few and far between.
Juan, considering that you believe the US Military to be a organization of mass murderers, why on Earth would you hold any sympathy for the Nazis, who would be morally equivalent in your eyes (presumably). Or do you mean “cliche” in a more neutral sense?
I can explain the cliche, he likes to play with exploitation films. Robert Rodriguez likes to do the same thing. Just look at Planet Terror or Jackie Brown.
No appeal just reality. Being “right” has nothing to do with playing any game. You play a game for personal entertainment.
My Theory - Libertarian (the definition) appeals to men more because men on average prefer to do things themselves. Women on average prefer doing things “together” thus they are more likely to support collectivist systems.
It is when I hear people giving up video games and movies they clearly enjoyed just to “fit in” or be more “non-aggressive”. I find it laughably ridiculous and yes cult like. “Rothbard said it was ok to pay this game…” When I read that in a book, I realized that the whole “NAP lifestyle” is as bad as some ideological cult.
Do you really think that working towards or desiring peace is any more cultlike than worshipping a flag or some founding ancestors, or some old piece of parchment paper? Do you really think it is any more cult like than standing with 40,000 people at a baseball game with your hand on your chest chanting national slogans and showtunes?
I’ve explained to you many times that I am not a Rothbardian, not by a long shot. But his political analysis is very good, and it did appeal to me while I was still political. You seem to do this thing where you conflate followers of Rothbard with Rothbard, or his social theorizing with his economic or political analysis.
It’s not very rigorous of you to do so. You’re not an idiot. You’re certainly capable of making very precise and logical analysis. Why you refuse to is beyond me. I think maybe you’re just one of those guys who has flame warred with people so long, you’re not capable of having an online discussion without trying to undermine any opinion that differs with your own. I was there a few years ago. We have a few other guys here like that. Some aren’t as bright as you. You can be productive in debate if you want to be.
It’s going to happen one day. Make sure you are involved in something like that, because when liberty goes viral, like how it did with Ron Paul, it’s an amazing thing to be a part of.
I’ve zero sympathy for the nazis. I probably didn’t word that right. What I meant is that one of the themes of the movie was evil nazis - it’s not an original theme, so it’s cliche - I didn’t mean nazism was not evil. Maybe cliche was not the best word ?
cliche : (in art, literature, drama, etc.) a trite or hackneyed plot,
trite : lacking in freshness or effectiveness because of constant use
Since we’re throwin theories out there- I don’t think the reason is because women tend to do things together. I think its more because we seem to lack a bit of an emotional appeal with our positions and arguments- which is hard to reconcile since we have the moral advantage. The way liberals of today seem to put their arguments have a much more emotional bent to them- and not just women but more people in general respond to that. We have logic on our side too- but for whatever reason getting rooted into logical reasons comes off as a bit “cold” and almost “suspicious” if there aren’t emotions behind it. Lol I hope that made some sense.
I’ve talked to many women and got them to libertarianism- its not hard unless you sound like a robot and can’t emote. Being women doesn’t prevent them from understanding- but women tend to be more in touch with their emotions so its the easier route.