I’m actually about to go to some meeting, and they always say the pledge and all of that crap. Now that I’m a full-blown AnCap, every time somebody sings the National Anthem or makes us all stand up for that or the stupid pledge, I always wonder if I should show everyone that I have principles and remain seated, or I should just go with the show.
Jesse Ventura said he turns around and makes a fist. What do you guys do?
I live in Redneckersonville, where I’m surrounded by a lot of old, tobacco-chewing Vietnam vets. While I respect them for getting through that hell hole that the government told them to go through, a lot of them are super-nationalistic because of it, I guess because they want to believe it meant something.
So when I do that kind of stuff in a public place, I think a lot of them would go for their M1 Garand.
Put your left hand over your heart instead of your right hand and repeat the Mad Magazine version of the pledge:
iPod Allegra, Tootsie Fab, Fuji United Franco-American, Banana Republic, Ford Chicklets Vans, One Nathan’s, Wonder BOD, Disney Vagisil, Wisk Listerine, Ban Jergens, Hormel.
or…
I pledge allegiance, to Queen Fragg, And her mighty state of hysteria. And to the reporters with delicious hams, One nation, under bob, indefensible, With quibbling and lettuce for all.
Say it in the same cadence as the pledge of allegiance. For an added touch, you can give the original Bellamy salute!.
As a libertarian you won’t say it, but you don’t have to alert others to that fact and be openly contrarian if you don’t choose to be. The mad magazine version’s fine
Who cares? Just go with the flow. You know what you believe inside and that’s all that really matters. More valuable than any sort of protest is to have a conversation with someone and plant the seeds of doubt re. statism in their mind. Do we really need to be in Afghanistan and threatening Iran? I wonder how much of that deficit could be closed if we just brought back our troops from the 700 overseas military installations we have in 170 countries?
Remember, it’s all just a sham. It deserve mockery, not protest. Let it run off you like water off a duck’s back. The moment you take it seriously enough to protest it is the moment you fall back into the statist script of the Forces of Good versus the Forces of Evil.
Since the default is to go along with it, choosing not to is a form of communication. However, as with just going up to people and telling them you’re an “anarchist,” this is not going to be a successful communication. They’re more likely to think you intend to signal you’re a communist, a terrorist, or that “you hate America’s freedoms.” If seen as a communication, it can only be a terribly obtuse one. In fact, until everyone in the room knows AND understands your position, there is no possible way they can interpret such a gesture of defiance as you intend it.
Anyone else get irked by people who refuse to do the salute, but are hardcore statists?
I noticed once that several friends hadn’t stood up for the pledge. They are progressive democrats so I knew they weren’t doing it out of a sudden conversion to anarchism. When I confronted them about it they said it was because it felt liks a religious ceremony and they didn’t think we should worship the state. Which should have made me happy I suppose, but they were wearing these shirts with Obama’s face on them. So it bugs me since I don’t know if they don’t get that they still worship the state, or if they were just trolling.
Personally I advise standing, but not reciting the pledge or saying anything. Better to avoid confrontation.