Ok, Obamanation has bequeathed this anarchic space with a cyber bitch (or was it czar). At what point do we stop feeling his presence in our rear and start kicking him in the nuts? I’m about sick of all this crap. We speak of the right to self-defense. At what point during this march toward the gulag do we defend ourselves? I truly want to know. Are we to be left in disarray with no clarion call? Whats the password? What’s the point at which we preserve our freedom by any means necessary? Can someone clue me in??? [:@][:@][:@]
I used to think the internet would most assuredly be the land we hold sacred, but apparently it’s not worth protecting either. Should we go ahead and put a big L in our win/loss column?
When you act is your decision, no one elses, if you are not willing to act without others, maybe you should not be barking demands that something should be done?
Besides that…
I do not believe the internet is the secure location to be talking about plans to revolt…
You are not taking into account that the internet is comprised of people from other countries as well…
You know, there was this couple in (I think) Plainfield, Virginia or something. I also think their name was Brown.
Anyway, they decided to take action individually and protest the income tax. After a few years of legal struggle and court showdowns with the authorities, they were faced with the decision of either paying or doing time. So they retreated into their home, which was from then on known as their “compound”, and stayed there.
This went on for another few years. Neighbors and sympathizers brought them groceries, some income tax protesters set up permanent camps in front of the house to prevent a raid and so on.
In the end, I believe their house was raided by a Waco-style paramilitary police force and they went to prison.
I don’t think this story is very encouraging, but in return very realistic when it comes to protesting grand injustice individually. Pairunoyd’s rant is justified.
Agorism is the only strategy with above a 0% chance of success. An economic collapse of the state is what must occur. To get Agorism to work you first have to have a war of ideas. We are in stage one of the revolution, spread the word.
One other thing I wanted to mention to you that you may not know. Paid agents of the state read this forum and others. They most likely own or have access to the ISP you are using.
Its ridiculous, I agree. The only real productive thing we can do is work towards informing others of the evils of involuntary government. There is hope for freedom though. Just look into history, some major changes have been occuring on the part of anarchism in recent decades. It’s practically a brand new idea, and if we play our cards right, it might be possible to eradicate the involuntary government all together. What won’t work is marching off stirring up violence. You will just end up in prison(or dead), with no one giving a shit. If you really want to take a step, channel your anger into non-violence. Take a page from the civil rights movements. There is some very valid argument for the non-violent take down of the state.
Defending yourself as an individual won’t protect you against the state. They have all the guns, and they are just itching to use them. Instead, try to think of alternate ways to bring about a PDA that would be able to combat the involuntary government for you. Meanwhile, read, debate, learn, think, and develop ideas that can be used to get what you want.
Why is that ironic? There is no reason why a voluntary group can’t fight for individuals freedom. That is the basis behind PDAs. An individual who is standing alone will easily get trampled by the mob. Individuals standing together have a much better chance.
The appointment of some Czar changes nothing. They have been trying to switch to a new web infrastructure for a long time, one that will be heavily regulated through the control of domain names and IPs. If you want to fight back, don’t fight the government, establish more networks, more websites, etc. Grow the internet beyond their capacity to regulate it (which is where it is headed now).
If you want to help Mises.org, Jeffrey Tucker has a lot of projects like converting stuff to PDF, or HTML, seeding torrents, etc. Invest your time in growing liberty instead of trying to reduce tyranny. The internet is not a zero sum game.
Organization requires establishing a competency with the terrain and resources of the area you are trying to defend.
Become competent using the net. To communicate, to collaborate and to research.
I spend so much time thinking about what is wrong with the state instead of concentrating on what positive good I could accomplish. I found it to be rather insightful.
Seriously though has anyone else put together the Homeland Security Report saying basically libertarians are domestic terrorists and this new cyber czar?
You can fight the state by undermining the state monopoly on information, on services and security. Allow the state to project strength where there is no opposition, and oppose where there is no strength. This is military strategy 101 and it has worked for centuries.
Fighting a direct battle is a losing endeavour. It’s for martyrs like Karl Hess.
Ha! The Prince can be thought of as an authoritarian manual. Or it can be thought of as an insight into the weaknesses and strengths of various political and military structures. No one wins a battle without knowing their enemy.
I saw a lot of spontaneous organization on the RPF. But people were political n00bies and spent a lot of time organizing sign waves and posting randish “Who is Ron Paul?” signs, when they should have been collecting signatures and walking precincts.
It’s not enough to organize. It has to be with a direction. Not centrally planned, but based on an understanding of the challenge. If people knew that standing on the road with signs would not get Paul voters, they would have walked their precincts, and actually registered Republican in time to vote in the primaries (yes, many didn’t even switch their registration, and thus wasted all of their energy so they couldn’t even cast a ballot for Paul).
So where is the opponent weak? How do we exploit that? What skills and resources do we have? I agree, we need organization. But not to act as one to be thwarted as one. We need the sort of organization that allows people to have better information than the state at all times. The natural process of freedom will do the rest.
Mises.org is an example of how decentralized information sharing allows rapid growth and dissemination. I don’t like the ideas of anything more formalized than that because it’s got too much potential to end up like some sort of Bolshevik revolution.