You guys are right

That’s wrong. It doesn’t follow that you don’t have the freedom to chop down a tree just because you live in the desert. A freedom might be useless without the power to exercise it, but it does not disapear.

I’m about as far from left wing as you can get, lol.

This is clearly a rationalization. I’m not living in a desert chopping down imaginary trees. I’m posting on a forum. Without the power to do so, I will no longer have the freedom to do so. My freedom to post in this forum will have been removed. Which is fine, I know what it means. I’m just trying to make sure you guys know what it means too.

Wrong. We want voluntary government. We want all institutions and relationships to be voluntary.

The problem arises because every single government that exists today is involuntary, and so we oppose them all on principle. We would not dream of opposing anarchism on people by force, though. If you want to have government, then have it. Just let me have the freedom to not participate.

One day maybe you will learn…

Left Wing, Right Wing the bird still flies in the same direction…

cancer exists, ergo its necessary.

prove to me that without a government nationalised shoe industry we would have shoes! etc. etc. lol at your ‘exceptionalism’

find us a region which no government would want to defile, and which eventually would come to its senses and ask a government to come in… if you can’t then your position is unfalsifiable.

you are a supporter of the state. our enemy.

strawman, plus ‘middle of the roadism’ or ‘pragmatism’ lead to … guess what… socialism !!! who said that for 200points?

you have a heart of darkness. don’t let your ‘friends’ see your weakside. make sure to hit one of them at least once a week so they know whose boss. they’ll get you if you don’t, theres more of them, they’ll over power you ¬!!! argh !!!"£!

This is wrong though. Someone who does not own a computer is still free to post on this forum. They maintain that freedom. They just don’t have the means to exercise it.

You have the freedom to not participate. Just not here. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

I will also repeat a maxim I feel is very appropriate: “You can please some of the people all the time, and all the people some of the time, but you can’t please all the people all the time.”

This article refutes that fact that all contracts are promises how? Hint: I did not say that all promises are contracts…

Then what good is the freedom?? Freedom without power is…pointless.

Why should I have to go somewhere else just because your social club wants to force me to participate?

Why should we have to stop them? Shouldn’t tyrants just have to stop being tyrants?

How are we going to stop them? Well the answer should be obvious. Through education. That is why mises.org sells books from an austrian viewpoint and produces daily articles.

Actually the first amendment is protection only from government. So again I say to you freedom of speech doesn’t exist on private property.

Clearly you are doomed to fail for under your logic you are still powerless [ and consequently without rights ].

wahhhhhhhhh! i want to jump to the moon! noone is stopping me but still, i cant, wahhhhhhhhhhh!
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i cant bench press a building… no one is coercing me, but im so powerless, wwaaaah!!! [:’(][:‘(][:’(]

Right, and if music is playing but no one is around to hear it, then the music is pointless. That does not change the fact that it’s playing.

Misunderstanding. I thought you were trying to prove the latter.

  1. Do you know what cancer is? It’s growth without limit. It’s necessarily going to exist as long as our bodies have cells that are programmed to regenerate. After a while, our cells start to misfire and no longer stop reproducing when they’re supposed to. Cancer is really a good analogy for humankind if you think about it. Also what happens to governments if they’re not kept in check.

  2. This objection is, to me, clear proof that you understand human nature better than you like to admit. If you guys start your own region, someone will come take it from you. You understand this, but you don’t seem to think it would happen if you did it here. Which is weird. Anyways, I claim a system works acceptably well. I can point to you the system. Then we can point out why it doesn’t work. We can’t do this with your anarchist region because it doesn’t exist. Nor has it ever existed really. So it’s hard to apply scientific method to it.

  3. If you really believe me to be your enemy, you’re more…fanatical than I thought. You sound like Islamic Extremists.

  4. I don’t know who said that, but they are wrong. The word “practical” has been misused so much, it’s hard to know what it means anymore. Socialism isn’t practical anymore than anarchy is.

  5. I don’t have a heart of darkness. I’m in touch with my humanity. I know what it means to be human.

How did you know that I’d like to be able to bench press a building? Anyways, I’m not talking about bench pressing buildings. I’m talking about speaking on this forum.

Yes. But I’m not playing music right now, I’m talking to you guys on a forum. Jesus, does it hurt to talk in literal terms for a second? What good does my freedom to post here do me if I don’t have the power to?

All laws? Who enforces the law of conservation of matter and energy? For that matter, who enforces logic?