Anti-Semitism as a Product of the Ideology of Interventionism

Kosher bakeries and Dreidel factories?

I LOL’ed.

This guy is starting to remind me of Birdman Bryant.

I’m here all week…

He reminds me of Birdman Bryant, which I added right after you replied.

Check this out for lulz: http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/NetLoss/NetLoss-SplitBrainRockwell.html

what if i substituted “muslims” for “jews” in the media, political process? would you still be relaxed and comfortable?

unless you can rebut the concrete facts i’ve laid out for you, i don’t see any need to defend any “conspiracy theory”. sorry to have pointed out the glaringly obvious. people act in self-interest. jews are people. jews act in self-interest. what’s good for jews doesn’t necessarily have to be good for others.

as no one seems to be contesting my essential points about the extent of jewish power, i’ll just assume that this is tacitly acknowlegded, and then we can limit ourselves to discussing whether or not this is a good thing for the broader population.

what if i substituted “muslims” for “jews” in the media, political process? would you still be relaxed and comfortable?

Yes. I dislike these people for their jobs, not for their crazy beliefs.

people act in self-interest. jews are people.

Yes, they do. And yes they are. Individual people. Not some mystical collective.

I deny there is any such thing as ‘jewish’ power any more than there is ‘Catholic’ power. These are not monolithic entities. Almost everyone in the Chinese government is Chinese. Is this ‘Chinese’ power? No, it’s State power - held by some Chinese people.

And what’s good for the Jews? You speak about the Jewish race/religion as if it was some homogenous entity, where every single individual part of this loosely defined group was absolutely identical. This is, of course, entirely absurd: what was good for Ludwig von Mises was not good for Hyman Minsky; what was good for Milton Friedman was not good for Murray Rothbard. When you talk about the “Jews,” you’re talking about millions of heterogeneous individuals with intrinsic differences, different value scales, different experiences, different goals, etc, etc. Additionally, what’s wrong with a minority accumulating vast sums of wealth? Is it a crime to become wealthy?

You’re literally talking nonsense, and I can’t believe we have another multi-page thread about this topic.

You’re literally talking nonsense, and I can’t believe we have another multi-page thread about this topic.

I can. I used to talk on some right wing forums. It would go like this:

  1. ‘A lot of Jews are annoying liberals.’
  2. ‘A lot of annoying liberal jews are in the media.’
  3. 50 pages on the Elder Zion and their plot to exterminate the white race.

indeed they are individuals. however on many issues of primary importance, take foreign policy in the middle-east, there is a remarkable uniformity of views and actions.

birds of a feather flock together. not always, of course, but often enough that few people take exception to this adage. individuals can act collaboratively, too.

That’s absolutely incorrect. There are many Jewish non-interventionist libertarians, as there are many neoconservative Jewish interventionists, and there are plenty liberal, self-hating pacifist Jews. Additionally, there are many Christians, Atheists, Hindu’s, etc, that support our so-called “war on terror,” and many that don’t.

what i see are straw men. i’m criticizing the way the largely jewish control of us mass media, and the disproportionate political power (follow the political funding trail) means that in the us there is an amazingly uniform message on things that are important to jews (ie. israel).

that jews aren’t automatons is perfectly obvious by looking at the israeli press, where an abundance of differing opinions can be found (criticism of israel, of zionism etc.).

i can’t see why that is controversial.

the “self-haters” and and those critical of israel get short shrift in the mainstream american media. and policy-makers obviously ignore them (see iraq war II).

true that many of the christian right are 100% behind israel and current middle-east policy, and cannot be ignored as a power bloc. but that’s a different argument. they don’t exercise the same media influence. their power is more diffuse.

there seems to some conception here that man is incapable of acting to further group interests, whilst still remaining an individual. would anyone assert that triads are a fiction? or the mafia, camorra, 'ndrangheta?

India mythology is indo-european…afterall it’s INDO-european, sanskrit is an indo-european language, so it is the hititite language.

The words Zeus, Deus, Zu, Du, Tyr, etc. all have the same origin because they all come from the same indo-european root.

India mythology is indo-european…afterall it’s INDO-european, sanskrit is an indo-european language, so it is the hititite language.

The words Zeus, Deus, Zu, Du, Tyr, etc. all have the same origin because they all come from the same indo-european root.

I agree. My point was that a lot of the same things show up in Jewish mythology, so it’s not a very good way of distinguishing Hittites from Jews

You’re entire argument is a straw man. It’s a fallacy through and through. Additionally, what media are you talking about? There are Jews in the neoconservative media (talk radio and Fox), in the liberal media (MSNBC, CNN), and Jews in the independent/underground media (Internet). The media itself is not a homogenous entity. And again, there’s nothing wrong with accumulating vast sums of wealth, and the fact that some Jews try to influence public policy is what, controversial?

I don’t know what you mean when you say “the Jews want …” Again, this is a loosely and ambiguously defined group that is solely comprised of different individuals with different desires, experiences, values, hold different positions, etc.

Your argument makes no sense, and quite frankly, you sound like an idiot.

a little bit of reading about the jewish lobby in washington, by paul findlay, republican.

http://search.4shared.com/q/1/dare%20to%20speak%20out

and for those with less time:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3252642434022358005&q=genre%3Adocumentary+israel&hl=en#

to edmund carlyle:

i don’t deny the existence of catholic power, either. go and live in italy for a while and you’ll see for yourself how strong the vatican’s influence is. in america, that influence is much less.

i don’t say jews run the entire world, i do say they have a enormous hold on opinion in america.