I just got pulled over for driving my friends car with expired plates (and no insurance or a license but I only got cited for the plates). I’m trying to think of a clever defense to get out of my $120 fine. Any takers?
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What does this have to do with economics?
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What does this have to do with liberty?
Is this a joke?
I don’t think it’s a joke but the kind of defense I can think of would likely get him thrown in jail for ‘terrism’.
The most likely way to get out of a ticket for this kind of stuff is to simply take responsibility for your mistake, apologize, and ask for lenience. Sure, the existence of the highway patrol in the first place is BS, and there’s no reason you should have to apologize to the state for not playing along with it’s inane little technicalities, but that’s the most likely way you’ll get your ticket reduced or absolved.
As a side note, why has this forum recently been filled with people asking for advice on how to get out of traffic tickets/how to get out of credit card debt/etc.?
At what point does burning down the courthouse become the only rational course of action?
Are you talking to me ?
I don’t mind random threads like this. Not every thread on this site has to be nerdy.
However, this thread is wrongly posted in the Economics section. It should be moved to the General forum.
They aren’t nerdy. They are on topic. This site has a specific purpose and use for it’s resources.
You’re incorrigible. [:D]
I don’t know, but I am getting tired of it.
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they can’t show standing, i.e. no victim
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they cant give you a fair trial since the judge is an employee of the state which is a conflict of interest
Tell him you had planned to get the expired plates replaced that day, but you were delayed by several protacted hand-to-hand combats.
I just got a damn speeding ticket thirty minutes ago while driving on a freeway late at night with absolutely no other cars on the road (besides the cop car hiding in the trees). FML
Beware if driving in Ohio with out of state tags, I was awarded a 76mph extortion certificate while in a 65mph zone while honestly traveling no more than 68mph. The price break on their tickets changes at 10mph over. Coincidence? I think not. Bankrupt gestapo wouldn’t listen to my pleas, had to pay up and shut up.
Oh, God. Ohio cops are pure evil.
This past January, I got a $130 ticket for “obstructed view” because I had a little bit of snow on my back windshield that had drifted down off the top of my car’s hood as I was driving. The overgrown schoolyard bully majestic emissary of Ohio’s finest, after he was done enforcing his local extortion racket serving and protecting, snorts “You know what!? Since I’m in such a good mood today, I’ll clean your back windshield off for you,” and then, with one sweep of the hand, he clears off the snow from my back windshield (which gives you an indication of how little snow there actually was), and then has the audacity to laugh, as if he knew what a joke the ticket was. Unfortunately, the only court date I could have taken would have conflicted with a very important date at work, and the local court is renowned for hardly ever absolving any tickets, so it would have been my word against his, and I probably would have gotten stuck with the ticket, court fees, and the opportunity cost of missing work for a night, had I decided to contest it.
I swear, when the second American Revolution overthrows this government and all these worthless bureaucrats get tossed out of their positions of power, I hope that cop is forced into some low-level janitorial job, where he can’t rule the streets like the mob boss he currently is.
The post gained the perfect response. I was surprised at the negativity honestly. We’re talking about the police state and over regulation here.
Keep telling yourself that. If you believe the laws are unjust, you would contest them, instead of looking for a loophole.
next time, perhaps post your question in a more honest manner, e.g. How can we defend ourselves from the overregulated police state and their citations for petty offenses? - when you titled this ‘Clever defense for …’, I was hoping to read about one that you had discovered.
When he barrels into a vehicle with my loved ones, and causes destruction of property and life, I don’t think being without insurance is petty.
He’s not entitled to drive on state roads by any means he wishes. He can avoid the roads or driving, but to drive without insurance is not only illegal, it is dangerous and irresponsible. If an accident occured, the cost would fall on the victim and the taxpayer for his negligence.
Libertarians don’t believe in no responsibility. They believe in individual responsibility. I fail to see how he was prepared to take any responsibility for his actions.