Enjoying a movie for spite

The NYT hates ANYTHING that undermines the left. Sure, they’ll use libertarianism (or anything else) when it can be used as a tool for the left, than discard it when it can’t:

http://movies.nytimes.com/2010/05/14/movies/14robin.html?emc=eta1

I am sure this movie will suck; but now I will pay 11.50 non matinee prices, watch it, and enjoy it just out of spite.

I am sure this movie will suck; but now I will pay 11.50 non matinee prices

doesn’t follow

For similar reasons, I’m shopping at Whole Foods (in the unlikely event I ever chose to travel to America) and Amazon.

I just saw it. Not what I was expecting, it has more to do with the Baron Alliance, Magna Carta, and war with France then I could have guessed possible.

Hilarious that the NYT and WaPo should think being (roughly) historically accurate to medieval English politics makes it a “tea party” movie.

doesn’t follow

Pardon?

I just saw it, and except for two minor qualms (Why was it even called Robin Hood? Were those bandit kids neccesary at all?), I rather enjoyed it. There was just something grand about having the English King ask Robin if he was demanding a castle for every englishman and Robin retorting that every man’s house is his castle, but that might just be me.

I thought they had unrestrained free markets back then?

I think it is a strange thing to watch a movie out of ideological spite…kind of like plucking your eye out to annoy someone, which I always think is a fitting metaphor for protectionism, but I digress. I think very few movies(at least good ones, though I like watching independent films more) are overtly political, though it is irritating how much I now flinch when hearing nonsense that would have before just passed me by. Indeed, since an A team movie is currently in the works, I wonder if that will get the “libertarian nod” of approval

I think it is a strange thing to watch a movie out of ideological spite…kind of like plucking your eye out to annoy someone

lol, perhaps, but it I suppose tast is irrational. There is no reason for me to like Stravinsky either, but I just can’t get enough of him.

I think very few movies(at least good ones, though I like watching independent films more) are overtly political

I think anything overtly political is bad regardless, but it can’t be denied most movies have a leftist slant even more independent films. Don’t get me wrong I can list many masterful directors that aren’t overtly political, or even left wing (Tarkovsky, Bergman, Kubrick) but the over all trend of critic, culture, and film in general is leftist even if it isn’t blatent. And it seems when a more blatent “right wing” movie comes out it is a) a rare bird b) despised by critics.

Yeah, you’re right, I think it’s because movies largely just reflect the values, accepted wisdom and “common sense” prejudices prevalent in the society at the time, so it’s kind of like only when you’re living outside the glass house do you notice it’s there for us. Though that experience I’m sure is shared by our “sane” fellow statists when trying to interpret the artistic works of yesteryears.

I honestly think however that the best movies are the ones that challenge the viewer in a certain, and are more than “just” a movie, so in that respect I even hold hope that libertarians could use this medium very effectively to reach out and challenge certain norms in interesting and more importantly, entertaining ways. Also, I really hope someone makes a biopic of Bastiat, because I might wish it to happen so much to put my own weight behind it!

I honestly think however that the best movies are the ones that challenge the viewer in a certain, and are more than “just” a movie,

Right. I am not religous/spiritual in any sense of the word, but for what it was Passion of the Christ was a good movie by almost any criterea, yet it got derailed by critics and was politicized. Don’t get me wrong, that movie may not “be your thing” or “niche” (as it wasn’t really my thing) but it was overall a well crafted piece of cinema. But I think the prejudices more reflect the media and"Squealers" (to use an Animal farm character) than culture as a whole. In other words kind of an “elite” type thing rather than a “populist” type thing that dominates media and information.

Also, I really hope someone makes a biopic of Bastiat

Lol, prepare to be dissapointed, I don’t see this one happening.

Really? In Medieval Europe many commonly bought items like bread were price fixed.

Contrary to popular myth, freedom is not the natural state of man. Man entered into existence as a social animal, part of a collective. Freedom had to be learned. Economic intervention is present as far back as the historical record goes.

40 Centuries of Wage and Price Controls

Dondoolee, why do you think Kubrick was a Leftist? Not saying he wasn’t, but I don’t get that vibe from his movies.

Maybe my sentence was confusing, I meant to imply Kubrick in a groupof excellent film makers that wasn’t leftist (or at least overtly so). From what I know of Kubrick the person, and from his films; I would not label him as a leftist. He was most certainly not a socialist.

“Dondoolee, why do you think Kubrick was a Leftist?” He didn’t say that, in fact he claimed him as an example of an apolitical director. I personally think was pretty clued up on the activities of the power elite, as seen in his final film.

You guys might also enjoy Kingdom of Heaven, another film by Ridley Scott that has ‘libertarian’ themes.

My bad, I misread it.

Anyway, artists are just one of those groups that are inclined to be against the free-market. It’s partly that they don’t understand it, but they also don’t seem to want to understand.

Oh, and if you do watch Kingdom of Heaven, make sure it is the Director’s Cut, the Studio gutted most of the intellectual content and character development in favor of combat in the theatrical.

(I assume that this film is not on the Mises Film List because it has a bit of an anti-religious theme)

Yeah I made the mistake of watching the film version, I heard the directors cut was much better, I’ve been meaning to check it out. Though to be honest I don’t think I have found a Ridley Scott movie even tolerable since Blade Runner (which was awesome, and the Directors cut is needed in that movie as well).

@dondolee: The Nexus 6 Extended Cut by Modernknife is probably the best version (yes, better than the latest Final Cut)

It is the view of this NEXUS 6 EXTENDED CUT editor that the idea of Deckard discovering he is a Replicant at the end of the film is a fun Heavy Metal sci-fi comic book twist, but unfortunately the film that proceeded that idea does not support that conclusion. Deckard’s journey from hating the Replicants to falling in love with one of his prey is one of the key themes of the original novel and shooting screenplay. Harrison Ford’s performancecertainly supports this notion. If Deckard is really a Replicant, then the Tyrell Corp. owes the Blade Runner squad a refund.

Who wants a Replicant Blade Runner cop with implants that he hates his job and quits the force cause it got to him and lost his ex-wife over it? A Replicant Balde Runner who is weaker than any of his prey? Once you start asking sensible 2019 questions on the why and how, it becomes clear that this one-off idea should remain just that.
It is the view of this NEXUS 6 EXTENDED CUT editor that the idea of Deckard discovering he is a Replicant at the end of the film is a fun Heavy Metal sci-fi comic book twist, but unfortunately the film that proceeded that idea does not support that conclusion. Deckard’s journey from hating the Replicants to falling in love with one of his prey is one of the key themes of the original novel and shooting screenplay. Harrison Ford’s performancecertainly supports this notion. If Deckard is really a Replicant, then the Tyrell Corp. owes the Blade Runner squad a refund.

Who wants a Replicant Blade Runner cop with implants that he hates his job and quits the force cause it got to him and lost his ex-wife over it? A Replicant Balde Runner who is weaker than any of his prey? Once you start asking sensible 2019 questions on the why and how, it becomes clear that this one-off idea should remain just that.
It is the view of this NEXUS 6 EXTENDED CUT
editor that the idea of Deckard discovering he is a Replicant at the end of the
film is a fun Heavy Metal sci-fi comic book twist, but unfortunately the film that
proceeded that idea does not support that conclusion. Deckard’s journey from
hating the Replicants to falling in love with one of his prey is one of the key
themes of the original novel and shooting screenplay. Harrison Ford’s performance
certainly supports this notion. If Deckard is really a Replicant, then the Tyrell
Corp. owes the Blade Runner squad a refund. Who wants a Replicant Blade Runner cop
with implants that he hates his job and quits the force cause it got to him and
lost his ex-wife over it? A Replicant Balde Runner who is weaker than any of his
prey? Once you start asking sensible 2019 questions on the why and how, it becomes
clear that this one-off idea should remain just that. Blade
It is the view of this NEXUS 6 EXTENDED CUT
editor that the idea of Deckard discovering he is a Replicant at the end of the
film is a fun Heavy Metal sci-fi comic book twist, but unfortunately the film that
proceeded that idea does not support that conclusion. Deckard’s journey from
hating the Replicants to falling in love with one of his prey is one of the key
themes of the original novel and shooting screenplay. Harrison Ford’s performance
certainly supports this notion. If Deckard is really a Replicant, then the Tyrell
Corp. owes the Blade Runner squad a refund. Who wants a Replicant Blade Runner cop
with implants that he hates his job and quits the force cause it got to him and
lost his ex-wife over it? A Replicant Balde Runner who is weaker than any of his
prey? Once you start asking sensible 2019 questions on the why and how, it becomes
clear that this one-off idea should remain just that. Blade

Should be on the internet somewhere if you’re interested. Original Runtime: 116m, New Runtime: 130m