That doesn’t necessarily mean that agriculture will inevitably lead to states.
K I see where your getting at but lets look at the situation realistically: there has NEVER been a 100% stateless society that’s been 100% agricultural. Id still prefer to get ag out of my life/diet all together.
“Stateless” is extremely hard to define, especially when you are qualifying it with a percentage. Moden American society is not 100% agricultural, either. It’s more like 99.9995%.
Suffice it to say, there are examples of “agrarian”, “stateless” societies. I had posted some previously.
I also stand fast to my position that the state requires fraud; a con in order to convince people to surrender their self-determination. If a society does not have that deception at its root, the meme of the state is a hard sell.
I’d say the state is a very easy sell: just appeal to everyone’s tribal instincts. That’s why just about everyone buys it.
Perhaps, but then what is to be done?
I’d say the state is a very easy sell: just appeal to everyone’s tribal instincts. That’s why just about everyone buys it.
Once people experience a peaceful voluntary society NO ONE will ever want to go back to statism.
I certainly hope you are right! Elimination of ignorance is the key.
That’s why I want to introduce more people to primitive living since that ensures that the state will never return. We know that civ is going to collapse some day and right before it does the state will become its most tyrannical, so better leave it now and watch it die then let it become a monster.
Be warned, even personal secession is not tolerated.
That’s why I’m moving to NH. Least tyrannical gov.
“What is to be done?” Simply alert people to the fact that their tribal instincts are maladapted to modern, giant society, so their innate idea of how big a state should be is going to be fighting them every step of the way. Education is the key.
Or just show them the amount of poison the gov. puts in our food supply and compare it w/ a 100% natural diet.
Yeah, then at least you’re only ingesting 100% natural poisons and disease vectors!
Look, H/Gs don’t get autism or cancer or any of the diseases we get now in our statist ag-driven society. Ag is NOT sustainable.
99% of the population would rather live in a civilized society with a state than a primitive society without one. I know I sure would, and I can’t understand how someone wouldn’t. Either way, there is not going to be a collapse of civilization.
99% of the population would rather live in a civilized society with a state than a primitive society without one.
Yes b/c they’ve been so corrupted by civ.
Either way, there is not going to be a collapse of civilization.
Are you sure?
F4M, the “Law of Life” is definitively anti-propertarian. How can you then claim that H/G’s are capitalists if they are not allowed to exclude their competitors access to something.
Look, F4M. You can horde all the gold you want. All I know is that in a post-civ world, tobacco and liquor are going to be more valuable to me and the people I know than gold.
F4M, the “Law of Life” is definitively anti-propertarian. How can you then claim that H/G’s are capitalists if they are not allowed to exclude their competitors access to something.
I never said that. The purpose of the videos is to show why civ will collapse.
Look, F4M. You can horde all the gold you want. All I know is that in a post-civ world, tobacco and liquor are going to be more valuable to me and the people I know than gold.
lol
Laugh all you want, but let’s be real. There’s no reason to believe gold would be valuable in a post-civ society. It’s not that rare, it’s not that useful, and plenty of other metals look just as nice. It might be surging in value against the dollar, but gold just isn’t practical from a survivalist standpoint.
Some indigenous populations used gold for religious practices or to denote high preists, but they were sedentary societies. If you’re planning on spending most of your time tramping through the forest looking for food, gold is just going to weigh you down.
$0.02
Freedom4me, could you provide a useful definition civilization collapse? Your videos were unhelpful.