Actually, they already have one of those. It’s basically what one would expect.
Can 1 plus 1 equal both 2 and 3? No?
Congratulations, you’re now an official skeptic of the official conspiracy theory of 9/11!!
The IDF doesn’t just randomly kills people. But you would know since you obviously served in the IDF. Actually you appear to know nothing of the military, what else is new
I saw what happened in NYC live and I have friends and family who watched the planes hit. I then researched the design of the trade center and listened to all the structural engineers explain what happened and made my conclusion which logically fits. Yes the U.S. government is incompetent but they did not plan 911 their incompetence led to it. Nor am I parroting anything. I am debunking the lies and propaganda spread by the ignorant truth movement.
The Conspiracy Files: 9/11 (60min) (BBC)
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Actually no they don’t. I have posted in numerous topics and made no mention of pandering to conservatives. Your deluded mind keeps bringing this up. Libertarian does not mean anarchist. That is why their is a separate word for “anarchist”. Does this propaganda really work on the people of low IQ you associate with?
What I did say is you need to stop the in fighting but people like you are hopeless. You can’t possibly support a position of less government only none and you waste time attacking people instead of trying to convince them, which you can’t. I find it laughable you waste all this energy attacking limited government liberarians than attacking progressives and socialists. It is like mass stupidity. You have convinced me that too many anarchists are idiots who don’t fact check.
David Ray Griffin a former professor of religion must know the answers! Not. His other books have been torn to shreds.
On Debunking 9/11 Debunking (PDF) (Journal of Debunking 911 Conspiracy Theories)
If you want to read an accurate book then please do…
Debunking 9/11 Myths: Why Conspiracy Theories Can’t Stand Up to the Facts (The Editors of Popular Mechanics)
Not to derail this but…
Wasn’t the term libertarian first used politically as a synonym for anarchism?
Do you have a PHD in economics? No?! Well sorry, you’re no longer qualified to have an opinion on this subject and are automatically inferior to Paul Krugman, who is more qualified. Sorry.
By the way, I provided you with a list of hundreds of architectural engineers who want a new investigation…you responded by saying that Richard Gage must have slept through all of his classes in college.[^o)]
Wait, so your response to Griffins book is to:
A) Quote a partial rebuttal to a different book, which has already been thoroughly addressed by Kevin Ryan (but im sure youve read his rebuttal already)
and
B) Quote the exact work Griffin professes to debunk?
And I guess you’re just going to ignore your self-contradictions and continue to worship your wonderful ideal of a ‘just’ government, huh?
Did I say the “randomly kills people” ? No I didn’t. I said they are murderers. Which they are.
So ? Did I say “no planes hit the buildings” ? No I didn’t. By the way, you only saw a part of what happened (assuming you are not just making it up). You don’t know what really happened.
There’s not much data about buildings like those being hit by planes. I’d say all conclusions are mere conjecture.
How do you know they didn’t plan it ? Maybe you are a friend of ‘top officials’ at the cia/the military/etc and they regularly inform you as to what they do and what they don’t do ? And what do you mean by ‘incompetence’ ? Maybe the military didn’t have enough money or training ?
Or are you admitting that the limited government and the military are not only murderers but also useless ?
To me you are worse than neocon/socialists. They at least don’t pretend to be libertarians.
This is interesting, I am against foreign intervention whether through aide or with the military, I want to repeal the welfare state (welfare, medicare, medicaid, social security ect…), I am against all government interference in the economy, I support complete free trade and I want to dramatically shrink the size of government. So please explain how I am a “neo-conservative”. Juan, your massive ignorance gets greater with each post. You come off as an ignorant child who has never been to the United States and has been reading too much propaganda.
And yet you advocate a large section of the economy to be dominated by a coercive government monopoly…
Real consistent.
No you can’t. If the people can come together to create a state apparatus to protect rights then why can they not add onto that institution the ability to make and sell shoes, provide healthcare? Your whole perception of limited government rests on the ability of everyone around you to think like you do [ in the sense of what government is responsible for ], how much money it is going to take and that no one or their posterity will actually think differently. Talk about utopian.
So, according to Juan, Ron Paul and anyone who has served in the military are “murderous thugs” and “evil collectivists” even if they profess libertarian views.Thanks for enlightening me.
More nonsense. Have you even read what they soldiers had to say themselves?
Listen to yourself, you troothers are like religious fanatics, “either you’re with us, or against us”, you’d fit well with the Al Qaeda crowd.
Once again, I don’t “advocate” anything: there was obviously a significant amount of cover-up and resistance to investigation to fully trust the official story. However, there’s enough evidence existing prior to any official story and outside of it to doubt at least the basics of it. I also haven’t seen any evidence of the top admin’s direct involvement or even foreknowledge. I’m not saying that it’s impossible, of course, simply that so far no convincing evidence exists (sorry, Bush’s facial expression doesn’t count).
My issue with most “truthers” is that they’re the typical product of socialized public schooling, i.e. unable to look at the bigger picture and treating 9/11 as an isolated incident without any connection with the rest of the terrorist activity, including the 1993 WTC bombing. Ironically, they’re making the same mistake as the government did, assuming that only another government can pose a significant threat to the US and preferring to treat accidents as nothing but particularly violent crimes.
I think he’s afraid that mass-murdering IDF bitches are going to attack him 
Of course, Hamas ladies in burqas are much safer to be in buses with!
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He doesn’t. He claimed the people join the military only to go on a killing spree with no apparent risk to one’s life and mind. That’s why there’s no murder and mayhem outside the government.
Oh, and he also apparently knew my grandparents who participated in WWII in the Soviet Army but hasn’t followed up on that one.
See, the truthers can’t believe that anyone who disagrees with them is capable of doing some independent research on his own. And yes, the whole of NYC are government plants and Bush cronies [:P]
Actually, it’s incredible that more people hadn’t been killed and earlier, considering things like Bojinka plot that was supposed to take place in 1995, six years before 2001. But no, Bush and Cheney have plotted it all!
Good point. Personally, I’m an anarchist because I doubt that “checks and balances” really work long term. But I could live with the limited government the way US was supposed to be. It certainly beat what we’re having now 
- what I mentioned are facts.
- what the soldiers have to say is irrelevant because their opinions can’t change the facts.
Then you’re not an anarchist. You either support non-aggression or you don’t.
Anarchy has nothing to do with non-aggression. It’s not a moral code, it simply means absence of a government monopoly on the use of force.
What you say is irrelevent because you don’t know facts.
I’m on this forum, and not Red State or Free Republic to avoid statements like this. It would be good if you could abstain from strawmen and ad homs.
And that goes for both sides of this argument. The problem is the state, whether they did 9/11 or not, they certainly created the atmosphere for it. Instead of name calling one another, let’s keep our eye on the ball.
So you are an anarchist who supports the use of aggressive force?
What makes you think so?