Easier yet tell them that you can’t wait until you begin firing a gun.
LOL. Also, get an Iron Cross tattoo.
say stuff about jews? ask your recruitment officer when you’ll get the chance to invade poland?
Yes, civilian service is contrary to libertarianism: ponder the question of what a civilian service corps will be utilized for. Whilst a military can be used for legitimate self-defense, a civilian corps by its very existence presupposes the governments right to interfere in the economy for government-mandated projects.
A vountary military service can very well be used for legitimate self-defense.
Considering consription as a demonstration in how people have been enslaved throughout history. When you stand there in line with many others, in identical clothes, with a mad officer in front of you, it is really psychologically difficult to oppose. After that experience you will understand why a heard of sheep let themselves be directed by one or two shepherd dogs…
Civilian labor, what would that be? Helping out in a public sector Kindergarten? I think that military service might be a better option for your CV, and more of a personal experience. Conscription is slavery. Feel it, touch it, live it for a year!
Since Prussia doesn’t exist anymore, German military lacks an irreplacable key piece of its traditional culture.
Unfortunately, they do not examine your attitude or I would’ve listed all semi-automatic rifles in alphabetical order and told them I sometimes dream of marrying a shotgun (not). But if you’re crazy-talking or acting like a moron in some other way anyway, they’ll send you to the shrink and add that to your medical file. That’ll be a nice little surprise to future employers - “has a mad desire to handle firearms”.
Likewise, I could’ve tried the drug method, just have a doobie and let them test your urine afterwards. But not only will that also be added to your records (employers like high time preference, don’t they?), it may also threaten your driver’s license and whatnot.
In the end, every loophole (except for the marriage option) seems to have some big downside, especially if you ever plan to get a job.
Today’s Bundeswehr is a rather benign organization compared to the American military, but I’m not trusting the peace. They’re using the same tactics that the Army has successfully employed to fill their ranks (“You’ll be able to go to college”, “Look at the great job opportunities here”, “You’re unemployed? How about some military service?”) and they were proudly boasting on some ad posters how many countries they are in as of today.
Sure, as a draftee, the laws says I won’t have to go abroad. Yet. But what if all the professional soldiers are overseas and the military needs some minions to keep domestic facilities up? Will the homeland then call me back in again? I’m expecting anything from these guys.
On a more positive note, I’ve spotted a civic service job that would entrust me with cleaning up and keeping an eye on some local forest. Isn’t that greenie? Being in the great outdoors all day just like in the military, but without the combat aspect.
would working for a german ‘free market’ institute count as a civic service?
Oh noes, the draft still exists! Uh oh, prepare to be a slave!
Get out of the country, immediately.
Also once the state is gone there’ll be a market for soldiers, not so much civil servants.
No. It either has to serve the environment or social service organizations such as the Red Cross. In short, all things that would make a liberal’s heart pound higher.
well, good luck with all that, tell us how it goes !
I am waiting for Juan, or Branpolice to arrive.
That’s kind of suprising they have mandatory service, how many enlightend european countries force that on people. The thing that bothers me is if the enlightend people in Europe do it and we have enlightend Obama as president, I don’t think the majority of Democrats (their hypocracy still amazes me sometimes) will protest even a military draft.
but then vietnam looms much larger in the american psyche than in the european, i would imagine?
Maybe if you hummed a bar from the song “Alice’s Restraunt” you could get out of the draft?
And change your name to Rambo.
You can’t get out if you have religious objections?
IMO, its better to have military experience. However feeble it is.
Join the military service. It’s a good chance to get in shape. Even if you don’t do anything after basic training, you’ll probably have access to some kind of work-out facilities.
Only if it is unpaid.
because a just action, when compensated monetarily becomes unjust?