Let me clarify. Note, I am quoting him in this instance, which means I’m responding to a comment “Wilderness” made towards me. He mentioned a video in a post early in this conversation, and he asked me if I watched it. The video is 1 hour and 30 minutes long (90 minutes total), so I told him I don’t care to spend that amount of time watching a video on Somalia.
Part two of my post:
I looked up a few things about Somalia, and I found out they have a president and a prime minister. If this country is truly a stateless society, why would they have a president? Doesn’t that mean they have some type of government?
But you do care to form strong or provocative opinions about it regardless and to peddle them on this board. Either put in the effort or desist from what you are doing entirely. It is making you look a buffoon.
Somalia is doing fine, last I heard about them when I watched that Somali pirates episode of South Park. They are a fine example of a thriving and prospering anarcho-capitalist society. Of course, anarcho capitalist societies formed by Europeans and Americans with their superior culture and intellects will be vastly different and much better off economically.
If you’re not going to take the time to learn a topic that you value, low or high, but value as your post logically implies being in this thread, then I will ever be cautious by what knowledge you share wondering if it is actually true or not. Leaving out of the examination of Somalia, information, that has been shared makes me wonder the full intent of your posting in this thread. That is unfortunate as I do not doubt that you probably have much that is outstanding to share, and in all honesty look forward to it. Yet, I now am a bit skeptical as to what is really going on and that is the unfortunate part in all this.
good night sir
P.S. The video covers many people that step forward out of nowhere that proclaim they are president. On a humorous note to lighten this up it reminded me of this:
There have been eight or so previous incarnations of Somali “government” since 1991, the Transitional Federal Government is just the latest. It exists by virtue of the protection of AMISOM (African Union Mission to Somalia) which is chartered under the AU (UN) and is staffed primarily by Ethiopian soldiers. With Somalia and Ethiopia being long-time enemies (prior even to colonial rule), do the math on how popular the TFG is with the Somali people. The primary group resisting the TFG is the Islamist group al-Shabaab, which is a splinter from the Islamic Courts Union (ICU), which I believe was actually absorbed into the TFG, though I’m not 100% clear on this. If my understanding is correct, then the TFG is essentially an Ethiopian sponsored and protected group of Somalis who are seeking to impose a Western-style tax-and-war government onto Somalia, resisted primarily by an extremist group from the same bunch of politicized Somalis. Add US and UK spooks and black ops types to the mix, and you just have a big barrel full of happiness in store for the Somalis who have been peacefully going about their affairs and quietly improving their standard of living for the past decade and a half until this recent surge of newfound interest by the Western powers into “helping” Somalia.
The TFG, by the way, basically controls only a few blocks within Mogadishu. In an interview I watched on YouTube, the foreign minister said, “we control the most important intersection in Mogadishu” which may have been true for a day after they captured it but I doubt it’s true any longer.
Somaliland and Puntland in the north are largely unaffected by the fighting in the south and it’s doubtful that even if a government is established in the south that it will ever be strong enough to exert much influence on northern Somalia. So, yeah, Somalia is still basically stateless, despite the best efforts of the UN, US and Ethiopia.
No I am not. I just stated the facts as shown by countless studies on white vs black incomes and intelligence levels. Of course the state has a lot to be blamed, but you can’t totally blame the socialist statists for affirmative action and welfare.
The burden of proof is on you as you are trying to make a positive assertion with your questioning. To ask each race of people to have to show proof that they are either as intelligent or have the same income as any other race is along the lines of guilty before innocence. Nobody has to positively claim anything about him or her self.
I don’t think liking one culture over other’s is racist.At times it can be narrow minded but again I don’t think it is in this case. In my opinion western and american culture is the best in the range of imperfect cultures.
studies can’t prove superior cultures.Reason does however.
Can someone please explain why we are talking about Somalia as being anarchist? Something with references? Because from what I can tell from wikipedia, it does not seem to be an anarchist society to me.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with ranking cultures.
Some cultures are more in tune with reason ,morality and just better suit human beings needs.However that doesn’t mean you should be Xenophobic or imperalist or Nationalist or dismiss foreign culture or ideas because their japanese for example.I look at all cultures and take the best for all of them.None are perfect not even western culture or my own native scottish culture.
I think American culture is best in accord with life though it could be better.I don’t see how anyone could argue all cultures are equal. Any western industrial culture is superior any day of the week to a primitive communal tribal culture that worships animal spirits (though probably their concept of government is less invasive than ours.
I don’t rank ‘races’.I don’t believe ‘race’ is a meaningful or scientific concept.
Culture and ‘Race’ is different.
I don’t think it’s relevant for social policy.Science and rational inquiry yes.
Objective aesthetics? I like where this thread is going. I would like to say that Ohio objectively has THE MOST superior culture and peoples in the country that has THE MOST superior culture of the Western European tradition, which objectively has THE MOST superior culture. I have the logic to prove it, my discourse ethics will prove it a priori.
To be fair, I would like to hear one of the arguers of one culture being more superior to another culture actually include the words “objective”, “logic to prove it”, “discourse ethics”, and “aprior”. Because if they didn’t, then I think you’ve painted with a broad brush when using a thin brush would have been better. And if anybody did mean what you explicitly state here, then I’m with ya. I have no idea how culture can be anything but aesthetic which is based on individual preference.