Is it morally okay to join the military?

Was pearl harbor attacked? Were U.S. Ships attacked in the Atlantic before we entered WWII?

Hey scineram you finally show your true colors eh ? Are you bright enough to understand that stealing money and killing people because of the ‘needs’ you feel is what socialism is all about ?

If you ‘need’ money, you just steal it. And in the process murder some subhumans too.

“From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.”

Pearl harbor started the first world war no ?

lol comeon Juan

It was December 7, 1941

Hawaii was one of the original 13 colonies no ? The American state had a legitimate title to the Islands ? They homesteaded Hawaii, right ? Or … ?

When did Hawaii become a U.S. Territory?

The question is how did Hawaii become a ‘us territory’ ?

Via the 1887 Annexation Treaty. Now was Hawaii a U.S. Territory when Pearl Harbor was attacked?

No. It was just another place the US government had invaded and to which it had no legitimate title.

Comes from the guy that said, if given a chance, he would kill all Iraqis that “murdered” U.S. combatants in Iraq

Which is an oxymoron. Libertarianism is what? Property rights. Limited government, is not compatible with property rights.

You’re not suggesting that the government of the United States of America can use its stolen resources to rightfully obtain a torritory, are you?

What do you suggest the Iraqis do if they see the U.S. intervention as illegal and coercive?

Ask them to leave? Or do you think that they have absolutely no voice in the decision of what direction their country should go?

Invaded? Really? So the government of Hawaii did not agree to the treaty?

Are you suggesting a contract cannot be made between two parties?

http://www.archives.gov/education/lessons/hawaii-petition/

The 1897 Petition Against the Annexation of Hawaii

huh, that’s really interesting

I had no idea about the history of Hawaian annexation, thanks for the link! (although I know it was not directed towards me)

You’re welcome :wink:

There is actually a Hawaiian separatist movement, but I don’t think it is very large.

Bad History, Bad Law