What a joke. The local resident is right… he and his neighbors definitely have an easement on peace & quiet during night-time hours and these fools are violating their property rights… that’s not protesting the government, that’s protesting peaceful, property-rights-respecting society.
The more I look at it, the more anti-libertarian FSP looks to me.
Clayton -
The more I look at it, the more anti-libertarian FSP looks to me.
NH was selected as the destination for the FSP b/c it was already a strongly libertarian state. Even if NH has the same problems as everywhere else in America it’s far better in every other respect except property tax. The FSP only has 960 people in NH as it is. Give it time. Once it grows to 2000 you’ll start to see huge changes in NH. Even w/ only 960 progress towards a voluntary society is being made. You need to dig deeper and you’ll find videos of free market activism in NH where police aren’t present at all.
Think of it like this: if you knew that the state was going to rob you, would you rather be robbed by a completely tyrannical state or a less tyrannical state? Police in Manchester and Keene suck but the violent monopolies are much worse in California and New York. I’d rather be extorted by the state in NH than in any other state.
Also I should mention the other goal of Free Keene is to expose the violent nature of the state along with the victimless crime laws.
I have to side with Clayton and the local resident. Libertarians can make their points during daylight hours. No point being annoying during the night. It’s not helping your cause.
Libertarians can make their points during daylight hours. No point being annoying during the night. It’s not helping your cause.
They do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX50QTu6yu0
Most of the liberty activism in NH appears to be agorism.
My bad. Exclusively during the day.
I still think we should support the FSP and stop dividing the liberty movement.
The debate on F4M motives has been hilarious. Especially because its been more of an in-depth discussion than the topic he posted about. So dude, could you tell us again
Why are you here?
Edit: It’s like having a discussion about someone, in front of them, as though they weren’t there.
Why are you here?
To discuss libertarian philosophy. Who am I talking with, a judge?
Just answer the damn question!!!
Why are you here?
Why are you here?
Edit: It’s like having a discussion about someone, in front of them, as though they weren’t there.
Right, that was a very enjoyable debate. >_>
Who do you think was right?
Are you asking why I’m on this forum or why I’m still living in civ?
Dude, remember I was the guy speaking in your defence? (Not in the defence of your ‘Prim’ beliefs, however).
Relax mate. Just a little parody and sarcasm about JJ & others. =)
I still think we should support the FSP and stop dividing the liberty movement.
Those guys protesting at night should stop dividing the liberty movement.
You are the one thats disgusting. you are sitting in nyour chair, complaining about activists, when people are actually out there, trying to achieve progress. And then you have the nerve to call them the losers and trouble makers? Its as if youre bitter about not achieving liberty that you give up on it, and criticize everyone who happens to actually want to make a difference. It is the pessimist conspiracist line of thought.
Libertarianism is hurt by people like these. You look out of your window and you see someone yelling in the middle of the night - do you want to join their movement or hurl a shoe at them?
Libertarians need to make their movement more palatable by focusing on big government issues and teaching the NAP. From there, the rest of the change will follow.
You know what else libertarianism could justify (besides yelling at night)? Resisting cops if they try to enter your home - for any reason, even with a warrant. Of course, this would escalate to violence, and if you are good enough at staying out of the hands of cops, then possibly a gun fight with a fight with a cop getting hurt or killed. Heck, you could kill all the cops that come to your door. This would not fly well with the public. Indeed, it is a pretty stupid thing to do, not only because cops think they’re doing the right thing by entering your house (they are likely not libertarian) but because the public reaction would be to say "look at those libertarian cop killers).
Studying libertarianism and trying to get people to realize that libertarianism isn’t about young students smoking pot in NH but a serious political theory.
Studying libertarianism and trying to get people to realize that libertarianism isn’t about young students smoking pot in NH but a serious political theory.
+1
You know what else libertarianism could justify (besides yelling at night)? Resisting cops if they try to enter your home - for any reason, even with a warrant. Of course, this would escalate to violence, and if you are good enough at staying out of the hands of cops, then possibly a gun fight with a fight with a cop getting hurt or killed. Heck, you could kill all the cops that come to your door. This would not fly well with the public. Indeed, it is a pretty stupid thing to do, not only because cops think they’re doing the right thing by entering your house (they are likely not libertarian) but because the public reaction would be to say "look at those libertarian cop killers).>>>>
this is exactly correct. No one benefits when you harm unwitting agents, and someone has to break the cycle of violence.
Break the cycle of violence. Educate the police about anarchocapitalism during your ride in the police car. Explain to them how dumbasses like chief wouldnt be in charge of them and they wouldnt have to put their lives on the line punishing victimless offenders.
Well, preferably you wouldn’t be in the cop car to begin with… Plus, you then make anarcho-capitalism appear to be the philosophy of criminals