Here is a direct quote from the article on page 46, from the most recent “The Economist” magazine.
“The biggest brigade in the Obamacon army consists of libertarians, furious with Mr Bush’s big-government conservativism, worried about his commitment to an open-ened ‘war on terror’, and disgusted by his cavalier way with civil rights. There are two competing ‘libertarians for Obama’ websites. Cafe Press is even offering a ‘libertarians for Obama’ yard sign…”
Which Libertarian belief coincides with national healthcare, class warfare, welfare, cap and trade, the bailout, or any other policies of the Obama ideology?
I’d like to know what libertarian will be voting for Obama.
When the commissars tell you to go stand in line to have your bread, then you have to stand in line to have your bread and you have to bite down hard on the bread just so you can have the strength to fight the commissars another day. That’s not a statement of anything but submission.
There is only one reason I could justify such a vote (not that I’m voting): McCain is likely to be slightly worse in foreign relations, Obama, slightly worse on the domestic front. We should bear the burden of our the state sustained in our name ourselves, instead of sending it off to others, if we must choose one of the two.
One thing that really matters to people , is that Obama is not George W. Bush or associated with him.
I know that is a simple answer, it doesn’t mean anything since changing rulers does not guarentee that things will get better , but the desperate might be more willing to gamble.
I am not voteing at all. I voted for Paul in the primary and that was enough Democracy for me..but if an anarchist / libertarian friend told me they were voting for Obama I really could not condemn them for the same reason I could not condemn a poor person for buying a lottery ticket.
Not the best idea, but I understand why someone would do it.
It is appalling to see how Americans, so confortable and used to the liberties and democracy their founding fathers fought their lives for, are wasting their opportunities to have their say on how their country is run.
Not voting is not a solution. The opposition in Venezuela learned the lesson the hard way. In December 2006, due to the osbscene advantages of the official Chavez supporters through the electoral system, most of the opposition candidates decided to withdraw their candidacies into the National Assembl, and the opposition voters supported that move by not voting for the few opposition candidates that still remained in the polls. The result? The National assembly today is composed by 95% or more of Chávez supporterts, clearly not representative of the country’s demography.
I am not voting for Obama because I am not an American citizen, but I am actively campaigning for him through the internet and college friends appreciate my support and lament I will not be in the polls with them next Tuesday. I do not know if I am a libertarian or not. I know that I enjoy many ideas I read in this forum and I think there are many valuable thougts here that should go into mainstream.
Into a certain percentage what you say is true. What I am trying to do is to improve the percentage of liberty within the present system.
The United States of America, after all, is still comparatively a land of freedom. Why do you think so many people over the world risk their lives in order to reach the incomplete freedoms offered by the U.S. Don’t you find it ironic that foreigners value more the American ideals that gave birth to your great nation even more than its own citizens?
What’s comfortable about democracy? I dont want to have a say in how other peoples lives are run, nor do I want them to have a say in how my life is. Also, the founding fathers also didn’t fight their lives, they played a cheap political game with the lives of those living in the colonies so they could have more control in how they (the political elites) ran the colonies.
You’re right. But since voting isn’t a solution and is violative towards other’s freedom, as far as candidatorial voting is concerned, it shouldn’t be practiced.
Right… And how has all of that voting been working out over the last 200 some years? Getting closer to a liberty loving republic or closer to a despotic democratic empire?
I’m not an American. America stinks. I’m a Canadian. Canada stinks too.
Incomplete freedoms? Let me explain something to you. This is the resort of resorts. This is where you can steal wealth and live larger than your production, on the back of the very poor people you’re trying to get away from. You can have what 2 or 3 billion people on this planet can’t even imagine. And you can have it free, or at a huge discount, subsidized by the extorted blood and tears of people in developing nations.
America is where the exploited come to become exploiters. There is nothing noble or wonderful about that.
Precisely. Stranger and I differ on this, but maybe what, 5% of the population is actually anti-state? There are a lot of people playing the game, because they benefit from it. There are a lot of people who are not in the government, who are not rich, who are not tied into big business, who are more than happy to receive their redistributed wealth, to spend up cheap credit with no intention of paying it back, and to rejoice and cheer as they Shock and Awe another civilian populace back into the Stone Age like it was a Hollywood movie.
Exactly, these people have no right to complain about the hard ship of being poor as a result of the state, through voting for others people’s money (which they feel they have some claim to) they create this system.
Exactly, these people have no right to complain about the hard ship of being poor as a result of the state, through voting for others people’s money (which they feel they have some claim to) they create this system.