Clayton, this is not the Low Content Rant/Vent thread 
You need power to do anything, and being able to do the things you want to do contributes to satisfaction. It doesn’t have to be associated with violence*.* But the point was that the power to do things that you want to do triggers release of and/or is associated with abundance of chemicals which reduce the effects of aging and disease and promote optimal metabolism (in addition to obviously contributing to the success/confidence/drive factors of mental health).
DMuff stop giving this young man bad advice. If he is “primal” how is he then supposed to live the life of beer, anarchy and rock n’ roll?
Don’t listen to any of DMuff’s hippie stuff, Kelvin. Don’t go without eating for three days or skipping breakfast, that’s just silly and self-destructive. You shouldn’t be boozing on an empty stomach!
Of course you have them, how else are you going to be a rock n’ roll rebel?
Nah, after they hear about all the other stuff they should totally forget about skipping school.
A personal favorite: The Kids are Back, or How can we stop it, when you’re havin’ none?
On a serious note milk-wise, I can’t seem to get enough calcium or magnesium or vitamin D even with drinking a couple of glasses of milk a day. If you start skipping it, do a little math and see if you can find out how to make up the difference.
D of course you should be getting from sun exposure, but depending on where you live and all that school, it might not be so easy. Surprising how many people are vitamin D deficient. By the time I got tested, mine was super low and took months of prescription D3 to come back to low-normal.
I favor canned whole sardines and sunflower seeds, but I’m still having to supplement with a multimineral. Don’t like taking pills.
–edited to add, that per my anthropology books, most human populations are well adapted to digesting dairy. Dairy animals were the first to be domesticated after all, since they’re so biddable. It doesn’t take nearly as many generations as you’d think for an adaptation like that to become widespread–
The answer you got to this question was wrong and silly even if it was correct. Most adults are not lactose intolerant, and even if they were, why would you stop drinking something so nutritious that you love so much before you verified you are also one of the “most”? You’re probably not becasue most people who are have at least some symptoms after drinking Milk.
Drink your Milk! Whole Milk! It has also been shown to be a great recovery drink if you workout. And it also tastes great in a Rothbard flask.
@DD5: I strongly disagree with the characterization “silly” - there are varying opinions on it. Search Mark’s Daily Apple for some alternative views on milk. My present view is that milk is like salt - good for you in small doses. But if you (generic) conclude after researching it that drinking a glass of milk each day is the right thing for you, then so be it.
What is silly is the unquestioning acceptance of the US dairy industry’s “Drink milk, it’s good for you”, “Got Milk?” and other propaganda campaigns. My recommendation to someone who drinks a straight glass of milk each day (or more) is that you take a careful, skeptical look at milk. Acne, for example, is an affliction that, in many cases, may be simply due to prolific milk consumption.
Clayton -
Clayton is channeling his inner Woody Harrelson:
Note: Woody Harrelson is a vegan/raw foodist. I’m most definitely not. But nonetheless he’s dedicated to healthy eating.
Hunger goes away in about two weeks, too.
Jesus Christ, since when does being primal mean never eating? Haha, I mean, I guess I could understand if your daily routine involves lying completely motionless, but damn.
@Willy: Well, think about it. Our ancestors in the primitive environment doubtless underwent (not-so-voluntary) fasts or severe rationing during hunts and other times where food supplies would dip. They had no capital to speak of so they had no cushion and they also had less insurance against food supply collapses and so on. Yet the body holds up through this just fine. Part of exercising the body itself is to stress it in different ways. I was watching a lecture by Nassim Taleb where he mentions that not all cells in the body are equally efficient, so stressing them (say, during a fast) helps weed out the weaker and less efficient cells.
Clayton -
Implying people die if they fast for over two weeks? There are fasts other than a water fast. There is the fruit fast, juice fast, master cleanse… Ever heard of Ramadan? You may not consider these fasts in the true sense of the word but the people who do them call them a fast.
I have read he did fast too.
A fast is only temporary but you can workout while doing one. There are muslims who play sports professionally.
Only when you are trying to lose fat, but you should only do this after your body has adapted to burning fat and have been eating high-nutrient foods. Otherwise, you will experience hunger because your body is deficient in nutrients.
Not only that. Sometimes im too busy to eat breakfast and lunch, but i will almost always eat dinner.
Sometimes i eat 2nd lunch (eating a meal at 4-5pm, but only having a small snack at 12 which is 1st lunch), without dinner and without breakfast. Sometimes i eat late dinner which is around an hour or so before sleeping (this is on the days i have 2nd lunch).
2nd lunch only occurs on tuesdays and thursdays. On the other days i have first lunch (eating a sandwich at 12), with dinner (around 6:30-8pm), and weekends i have breakfast, on sunday though i usually don’t have breakfast, it depends with 1.5 lunch (rice/meat/vegetables in other words a real meal), with diner).
And if there is no school on the weekday i eat a normal to small size breakfast (usually the size of 1st lunch), extended lunch (2-3pm instead of 12), and normal dinner.
What is your eating routine?
Whenever I’m hungry or when out with friends/family/etc.
@Clayton: Gotcha. Emphasis on “not-so-voluntary” though. Personally, I’m all about the Penn Jillette attitude when it comes to eating: Eat more. Although he’s lost a bit of weight over the last couple years. However, I think it’s also a misconception that “overweight” people are necessarily less healthy. Much of the issue is merely cosmetic.
But I’d agree that varying your intake is good for the simple reason that it’s a bit of a physiological/mental exercise in itself. I use the same reasoning after a long weekend of partying. My liver is made of rock! …in a sexy way, not the cirrhosis way.
Nothing wrong with fasting. Just skeptical of their efficacy. I’ve experimented with a lot of diets, but never fat loss diets, so I can’t speak from personal experience. I did have a Muslim friend in college who was a workout warrior. During Ramadan he would lose 10-ish pounds and about 1/3 of his strength (which he found distressing). But I suppose his body fat went down too.
@KelvinSilva
Eat when you’re hungry, drink water when you’re not. Milk and sandwiches, small amounts of bread only when meat is involved. No candy. Lots of colorful veggies. Vinegar. Avoid all softdrinks (except for ginger ale to mix with your bourbon). Meat with every meal.
Agreed. And this is a central part of Sisson’s philosophy. Human beings are obviously lazy creatures! But so what? What’s wrong with that?? Laze around in the Sun until you have to go do something. Then go do it. Then go back to laying in the Sun.
But the same limitation (can’t simulate non-voluntariness) also applies to the sprint routines in Sisson’s workouts… you can’t exactly simulate having a pack of wolves on your ass. Well, you can, but unlike our forbears who might have been able to survive such a situation, you and I will just get eaten… LOL
Clayton -
I like milk quite a lot, but I try to drink lactose-free one whenever possible, it makes much easier to digest.
The hormones in milk may have an infantilizing effect… increased docility, servility, etc.
Aha, Freedom4me warned us the agg was designed by the gov! If only we listened to him!
Well the main reason you gave in your post for why milk is bad was that most people are lactose intolerant, but if he is not one of them, then why should that affect him?
I don’t see a compelling argument against milk by Mark Sisson except that most commercial milk comes from cows eating grains and subject to all kind of artiificial crap. I can buy into that. But organic whole milk by grass fed cows? What is wrong with that?
That may be true. But being chased by wolves is a very effective and natural antidepressant. Nothing brings back the vigor of life like the prospect of being ripped apart by a gnashing set of jaws. And some of us probably need to be eaten. It’s the primal way.