I don’t know, and I don’t care. The government is still evil, either way. And they are also still culpable, whether through malice or negligence makes no difference.
Actually, to Misesians, subjectivism means that there isn’t such a thing as right and wrong apart from the preferences of somebody, not just that there isn’t such a thing as right and wrong at all. I can’t think of a more uncharitable interpretation of Misesian subjectivism than what Onar Am gives above. Hopefully he was talking about something else.
“position that says there is no objective morality (intersubjective consensus at best) is obviously not the same as position that says that everything is subjective.”
Objective means logical and reality oriented. If there is no objective moral, moral is just a matter of sucjective values.
“Also I don’t understand why would you equate moral or total subjectivism with violence”
If there is no objective moral, the only way to find out what to do when you disagree with someone, is to use violence.
“Moral subjectivism does not claim there is no right or wrong BTW.”
So what does it claim?
Then I believe in everything objective!
At the most fundamental level, of course it does.
What if talking to them would work better?
In my previous post, I explained what Misesian subjectivism means.
Morality is objective. EOD.
Wow. That is the perfect argument. Exteremely compelling. I’ve never seen someone convey so much with so few words. I was on the fence before, but now I’m convinced. Thanks!
kwalla is a box of cornmeal. EOD.
Wow, I can make assertions too! But unfortunately for both of us, ASSERTIONS PROVE NOTHING.
Just to piss you off:
911 was an inside job. EOD. lol
But I thought that the discussion already ended!
not all here on mises.org are moral relativists. I am myself moral objectivist and I believe in objective morality and ethics (to some degree).
And I am also anti-IP. The reason is simple - it is not scarce.
How about instead of some off the wall, irrelevant question, ask something sensible like… is the 911 Official Report accurate?
Check your premises.
Update for Hoppeans still clinging to IP: Hoppe Interview on Anarchy and Intellectual Property.
Thanks Stephan.
So according to the IP defenders, Hans-Hermann Hoppe is a commie.
Ha.