Haha, excellent point!
It’s not that excellent.
The desire for recognition on freely exchanged information bears absolutely zero resemblance to being opposed to the legal framework which currently exists.
Remember this: The anti-IP stance is NOT opposed to “Intellectual property” per se as Stranger seems to define it at times; it refers, rather, to the legal, non-voluntary, coercive State framework.
You missed the point. Such an arrangement was never agreed to apon purchase. What you call it is irrelevant. The only thing outlandish here is your apparent notion that your bound to a contract you that you weren’t even aware of.
Why do you persist in attempting to degrade my posts by petty name calling? (IE outlandish, what even is outlandish?) It’s fairly consistent of you in every response you’ve given me.
Your act of posting requries the server to physically change in order to represent your post as bits and distribute it to other readers. The owners of the server don’t have to let your posts be stored on their server if they don’t want them to be.
It’s called declaratory law.
This is a trivial strawman. Your focusing on the data content and blatantly ignoring other factors involved. Whats scarce is the bandwidth and power that goes into running this site. There is also the issue of maintaining a certain type of community, which LvMI has every right to do given they own, maintain, and pay for the medium which operates it.
No one is stopping you from downloading the entire site, hosting it on your own and posting forum posts to yourself on your own site. Just don’t get upset if no one joins you.
Why do you persist in this way? I can’t tell if this is an elementary error on your part, or a genuine attempt to foul someone up.
Stranger: “Note also that the forums are not rival - unwanted posts being made in no way stops anyone from posting.”
However, the hard drive in which that content is stored is rival. Next…
We can appeal to the terms of service and forum rules. We can also appeal to the fact that LvMI leases and controls its software and hosting.
There is no need to appeal to intellectual property, the website is a medium just like a magazine, and a magazine editor can choose which letters to publish, just as LvMI can choose which posts, threads and blog posts to publish, through the mechanisms above.
Epicurus: “This website is not physical property, how could one ban someone from it without appealing to some kind of right to informational/intellectual property?”
The servers are physical property. Next…
They are rival. The resources to provide the forums have hard limits. Bandwidth, the software license, disk space, not to mention less obvious factors like placement.
They are rival. The resources to provide the forums have hard limits. Bandwidth, the software license, disk space, not to mention less obvious factors like placement.
That is scarcity, not rivalry. As long as those limits aren’t reached, there is no conflict, and, under IP communism, no legitimate exclusion of any post is allowable.
There’s no conflict in posting on internet forums?!? (until hard limits are reached?)
LOL
They are rival because the use of one unit of anything, is a lost unit to the host. Not to mention, they aren’t IP. They are physical limits. This isn’t even a question of IP.
There’s no conflict in posting on internet forums?!? (until hard limits are reached?)
LOL
This is exactly the absurdity that one gets if one does not consider property as fully sovereign, but only exclusive on conditions of rivalry.
Regardless, even if forums were magically hosted w\o servers, posters conflict in the space that is shown. Which is why there’s posters who spam, posters who make a lot of threads, posters who like to post “first”, posters who like to get the last word… and posters who just want to have a high post count.
I KNOW A LOT ABOUT FORUMS BRO 
Onar Am:
“I wholeheartedly agree that it is completely ridiculous to say that killing someone is ok unless you explicitly agree not to kill them. By the same token it is completely ridiculous to say that copying and distributing someone’s intellectual product is ok unless you explicitly agree not to copy and distribute it.”
It is disingenuous question-begging to equate these. Killing someone invades the borders of their body–which all of us libertarians agree is their property–without consent. Using information to guide your actions is not an invasion at all.
“Classical liberalism is the appropriate term for this, and how you get private property to be a form of socialism is beyond me.”
Classical liberalism does not view state-granted monopolies in informational patterns as natural rights. Asserting that such artificial grants of state monopoly privilege are “private property” is totally unwarranted, if not perverse.
They are rival because the use of one unit of anything, is a lost unit to the host.
The length of a webpage or forum thread is virtually infinite. There is no lost unit to the host. The only claim to loss is a loss of exclusivity, and the same claim is also true for home privacy and copyright.
The servers are physical property. Next
If you’d have read a little further you would have seen this question was answered much better than this.
The servers would play no role in it. You gave me permission to your servers when I accepted membership. What is significant is the informational content of the site,
But of course the much better answer was that I had to agree to the forum rules when I signed on.
The length of a webpage or forum thread is virtually infinite.
Or more accurately, “not even approaching infinite”, or “nothing like infinite”. Do you know what “infinite” means?
But its a none issue since the forum is hosted on private physical property, and the institute is welcome allow and disallow occupants of it.