Hey all, I was just wondering what everyone’s opinion on the worst president is? Though I imagine a lot of people might feel that its Bush 2, lets keep it to presidents who have completed their term so as to minimize repitition 
I’d say my top three would be Lincoln, FDR, TR, with an honorable mention to Jimmy Carter for being an utter boob.
Your turn!
Hey give Carter some credit for fighting off a giant swamp rabbit! [Y]
I don’t know who was the worst president, but I know who my dog thinks is the best. He likes George more then any other.
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I am torn between Lincoln and FDR, with honorable mention to Truman and to JFK for making sacrificing yourself for the state sound like fun.
Target rich environment, indeed.
John Adams set such a good example with the Alien and Sedition Act. Got us off to a rousing start.
Lincoln was such a boon to the railroads, as well as changing fundamentally the nature of the country, I’d have to include him.
TR, truly a notable among the notables, didn’t kill as many as WW though.
Woodrow Wilson instituted fascism here, gotta love that. Killed a bunch of people, set up the world for WWII.
HH handled the Depression the wrong way and gave FDR such great ideas to start from.
FDR, did such a great job screwing up this country he had to try to take over the worldl.
HT, you just can’t kill enough Japanese to really get a century rolling.
JFK, as noted, made WW’s policy of making the world safe for democracy cool again, and lit a fire under all of the neo-cons.
They are like potato chips. It is hard to pick just one.
I’ll take Lincoln. The rest would have had a much harder time if not for him. Hard to top killing 600,000 of your own neighbors without atom bombs, and making “total war” fashionable.
Hmm… FDR vs. Lincoln? Despite Lincoln invading the south, the effects, although the action itself being immoral, weren’t as bad as what FDR’s policies will have in the future. Imperialism on the Right versus Socialism/Regulation on the Left, I would see the Left as a greater threat to domestic liberty than international crusading from the Right.
Lincoln changed the US from a confederation of equals into a roach motel. Once the states had no option of leaving there was no way to effectively restrain the Federal government, thereby making all of the rest possible.
Someone recently said something to the effect of, “The Democrats want to take my money. The Republicans want to put me in jail. I can always make more money if I’m not in jail.”
I’d always thought of George Bush the elder as worst president until his son ascended to office. I was thinking of how those accused of crimes lose all their assets without trial. But that’s mostly because I learned American history in public school, so I didn’t know anything about many earlier presidents. Now that I’ve read more about Wilson, I have to put him near the top of the list as well.
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George W. Bush is too easy - he’s just ineffectual and hasn’t the guts to push libertarian or even conservative causes. Besides, as mentioned previously, “target-rich” doesn’t begin to capture it. I go with FDR, obviously, for creating and expanding the nanny state into something Uncle Joe Stalin would be proud of. But, along with the thesis of a recent book, I have to utterly excoriate Woodrow Wilson for creating the international situation we see today, for being a racist, a hyper-intellectual interventionist, and for laying the groundwork that led to World War Two and the Depression… and of course, the election of FDR. Herbert Hoover goes into this category too, for getting FDR elected and having his human engineering ideals smashed on the rocks of the free market. Lincoln gets too much press in the libertarian world, so I’ll steer clear of him. Jimmy Carter is my last one, as I remember how he almost made it (and still wants to make it) so that an America that can lead by example almost disappeared from this earth in order to be subsumed under a communist tidal wave. Honorable mention: Richard Nixon. Wage controls, price controls, EPA. 'Nuff said.
Woodrow Wilson. He made the world safe for mass murder. King Lincoln comes in second. He was the first warmongering fascist in US history and opened the door for Wilson and FDR.
Good lists.
Lincoln, FDR, Wilson, Theodore Roosevelt, Truman
I think maybe we should quantify worst in terms of the civilian carnage from US actions during their reign. Here would be my rough ranking
Truman: A-Bomb on Japan
FDR: Fire bombings of Dresden
Lincoln: Southern genocidal campaign (march to the sea)
My vote definately goes to that fascist pig lincoln. You just can’t beat a president that orders executions without trials, unleashes thugs called “generals” to rape and pilage, burns down entire states, and then makes people march through soldiers to get to the voting booths. Not to mention that he hated black people and wanted them all to go back to africa. People praise him for letting them fight his war, when he was just hoping that a lot of them would die. I bet Stalin killed so many people in his own country as an effort to break Lincoln’s record.
I want to vomit everytime i hear a republican fanboy remind everyone that lincoln was republican…only an idiot would be proud of that.
2nd place goes to FDR, first and foremost for the New Deal. I also hate him because he knew about pearl harbor and let it happen. The families of the people that died there should have been able to wheel the bastard into a volcano for letting it happen. Also, he shouldn’t have gone into the European theator in WWII, but he did, and that allowed japan to take over parts of Alaska…how inept can you be?
Anyone who names GW as the worst president ever is absolutely insane, or completely ignorant of this countries long list of terrible rulers. Sure he’s a socialist and a warmonger, but nothing compared to fdr, lincoln, carter, jfk, and truman. He also least tried to privatize social slavery..oops security. Not his fault that AARP members are so used to being slaves that they can’t imagine things any other way.
Woodrow Wilson. It was the start of the world governance idea (League of Nations) and spreading democracy. It was the start of the era dominated by socialistic elites, who to this day we have not been able to shake off.
The worst president? That’s a difficult choice because there are so many to choose from. I would say it’s a toss up between Lincoln, Wilson and FDR. But, if I had to pick one, it would be Wilson. That crazy do-gooder gave us the income tax, the Federal Reserve, and our entry into the horrendous World War I. Way to go, Woodrow!
There’s a difference between any president?
Yes. And to claim otherwise is a revolt against morality.
Certainly is. Compare Lincoln to Van Buren and it becomes apparent.
While none of our presidents were perfect, some did truly believe that spending taxpayer’s money on projects of individual benefit was robbery, and some did object to government interference with financial markets, while others supported both of those programs. Some supported war for imperialist reasons; others opposed any war in which we were not attacked first. It may only be a difference in degree, but it is a difference.
Questioning the capacity of parasites is revolting against morality now?
Strange. [^o)]