Who was the worst president?

I disagree, partially, with charging culture to blame, as there always has been a degree of expository and/or entertainment involving violence & death in cultures throughout history (perhaps out of a need for individuals to cope with the ultimate unknown that is death). Then again, Statism has been around for a while as well.

However, it would be in the State’s interest to encourage a culture of coercion & a conflict view of society, both of which I think infiltrates culture of various nations (especially the USA) at every level possible.

For example, one can take the movie Resevior Dogs has largely glorying coercive violence or one can take the eventual outcome of the movie as an expository on the almost futile & destructive nature of said coercive violence.

Recently, there was an excellent article at LRC regarding the conflict view of society in the U.S. that sort of relates to what I’m talking about: http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/barriers-broken.html.

As for the pocketbook remark, this is sadly & easily obfuscated with the myth / half-truth of WWII revving up the economy & ending the previous poverty of the Great Depression (half-truth, since we already had a war-based economy, but yea).

As for being anti-American: poppycock, I say. Many Founding Fathers would be called “anti” American nowadays, by the leering idiots who cheer for their political teams like a hot day in the football stadium, then line up at the polls like they’re winning a lottery ticket.

Recently, with a dreadful conversation with relatives over Election-Day, I was called “anti-american” for essentially “not picking a side”, & criticizing everything else everyone had to say.

Truly one of the most disgusted moments (personally) this country has brought me so far.

AKs are more popular than any American weapons :slight_smile:

Yes, rich racist white men.

I did not glorify the Founding Fathers to exempt them from such valid criticism.

I meant that their Constitutional beliefs would cause their nationalism to be called into question by the current “entitlement” generation, looked over by the Statist Welfare/Warfare machine.

Where is George Washingston on this, or any, list? He was a president, wasn’t he?

He was on the adequate list, #5. Seems like you skimmed right over him when you were reading.

Seems like I need new glasses, again.

Bumping this to see if Barack Obama has entered a ranking in his short time

He’s trying his hardest to make it to number one on the worst. YES WE CAN

He did kill off the national bank. But then he put the government’s money in private banks belonging to his own political supporters - the so called. “pet banks”.

I’m officially placing Obama in as the worst president in the history of the United States.

Worst? I think FDR or Lincoln for sheer destruction, but for general buffoonery, who can top our loveable W?

I would like to give Andrew Jackson some honorable mention, though. Sure, he was a total psycho, even by the standards of his own time, but he IS the only president in US history to take down a central bank.

The Rev

I will start Mr. Obama off at position #12 from worst, after Jimmy Carter, within the “fail” range.

Obviously you can’t judge a man who has been in office only 60 days on his achievements or lack thereof, so I am going by his words, intentions and actions. Currently, his words, intentions and actions are those of a man on his way to disaster.

My feeling is that he will end closer to worst, but for that we must wait and see.

For comparison, I currently have George W. Bush tied at 7th from worst, with McKinley and Truman.

I think it is far to early to rank obama as one of the worst ten yet. If he has implemented some bone headed policies thier full effects have yet to be felt, plus he hasn’t drafted yet nor killed as many people as his past 3 predecessors yet. I still don’t think he has reached the heights of TR, FDR, Truman, LBJ or Wilson yet by a long shot.

For the Rrecord, if I had to pick the worst it would be TR as he seems to be the alpha for all things bad. His precedents were poison that have never left the system. Lincoln and McKinley may have been before him, but I don’t think they had as much of an impact in philosophy the way that TR had, they were more proto types.

Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

Other than Lincoln, I can’t think of a single president that managed to wreck so much havoc after he went into the ground. Wilson probably comes close.

I still say Wilson is the worst.

Once Obama matches Bush in international blunders contributing to more death, he will enter the top 10. He intends to pass Bush economically before his 100 days is over. Maybe that will stop him at a single term.

A quick note on Lincoln and the Civil War, the South did fire first…

[edit] Nevermind. The South told the North to give up their forts, and the North refused.

After Lincoln sent 75,000 troops to invade the South to end secession.

Excellant resource by the way, thanks!

Coolidge presided over the 20’s, when the Federal Reserve pumped massive amounts of credit into the system. I don’t think he can be called a good president.