Breivik - 'I'm Surprised I Wasn't Stopped'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/26/norway-killer-breivik-surprised-stopped

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The man behind Norway’s terror attacks has told his lawyer he was surprised he was not stopped straight after he bombed Oslo city centre, and that he expected to be killed before he reached the island where he shot dead 68 people.

Anders Behring Breivik was a “very cold” man who had taken drugs to keep himself awake during the shootings, the lawyer, Geir Lippestad, told a press conference yesterday.

Breivik, who has confessed to killing 76 people in the atrocities in Oslo and on Utøya island, told Lippestad he was at war with the world, and that killing was justified in a war. “He was a little surprised he succeeded – in his mind succeeded,” Lippestad said. "He was expecting to be stopped earlier by the police or someone else during the actual day. He was surprised that he reached the island.

“He thought he would be killed after the bombing, after the action in the island, and he also thought he would be killed at the trial. He believes someone will kill him.”

Breivik also claimed that he was part of an anti-Islam network that has two cells in Norway and “several” more abroad."

The really “funny thing” is that the cops took very long to arrive at the island simply because all helicopter pilots from the police were on vacatiion, ALL PILOTS.

Hooray the state!

That’s worse than the post office, where half the employees take their lunch breaks during peak time.

I heard it took more than an hour for the police to respond and they had to ask for permission to get the guns to stop him

Consider this. A chap I know was riding through Norway when he was buzzed and forced to stop (through loudspeakers) by a chopper of the Norwegian police. Of course he had been speeding. Though he was so far off the speed limit he expected to be hauled off to jail and/or to be given a huge fine given the show of force. He was fined the equivalent of 25€ and let go immediately since he paid in cash. I suspect only the fuel needed for this stupid stunt far exceeded what the police got in return…

The helicopter the police has is a surveillance helicopter, not transport.

It took the cops one hour from the local police got the first call, to the SWAT team apprehended ABB. When a shooting is reported to the police, they probably get the permission immediately, but usually cops in Norway don`t carry guns, some have guns in the patrol car.

Gun control strikes again.

The cops said yesterday that ABB did not have a license, and the off duty cop on the island, did not have a gun.

Van Creveld is right: abysmal failures of state-monopolized security services such as the mess in Norway, will slowly take legitimacy away from the state and toward actor who can protect against nuts such as this a***ole. Terrorism (or guerilla warfare, its more honored sibling) is the end of territorial monopoly of violence, in turn the need of the state(at least of the huge state as it exists today). Of course, It’ll be getting worse before it gets better.

So a surveillance helicopter can’t be used as improved transportation in a extreme emergency without going thru the typical bureaucracy?

It couldn’t transport a whole squad, but a couple of armed cops there could have made the difference.

do you have a source for this?

No, it was not just that, the pilots were all an vacation, because the police decided it would be better to be without the helicopter for 3 weeks instead of 6 weeks. The target of the attack, i.e. the government-politicians, have not been willing to grant money to the police, so they don`t have the manpower(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_size_of_police_forces)/equipment necessary.

It took 60 minutes from the local police was notified, until ABB was apprehended. And cops in Norway don`t carry firearms, but some have guns in the patrol car and have to get permission from their superiors before they can use them.

Let me guess and all the victims were unarmed, partially because Norway has very strict gun control legislation.

Incl. the off duty cop, who was on the island working as a security guard for the youth organszation.

I saw a source on that one from Yahoo -Norway police arrive 90 minutes after firing began

“When firearms are needed, they typically have to call and get permission from the police chief.” Source

And yet, they’ll use it to make it even more difficult.

The delay in response has been a spawn for some conspiracy theories.

There was a conspiracy. Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFx5C7btaOA

Where he got a truckload of money from, who allowed him to put his rhetoric out before the event and consealed his identity, what motivations he had to do it and to whom…

Another “funny thing” is that a supposed defense lawyer is allegedly releasing statements to the media that implicate his own client. Sure smells “funny” to me.

An even funnier “thing” [to me at least] is that you have high profile “libertarians” such as Lew Rockwell and Justin Raimondo, completely disregarding the principle[s] of " innocent until proven guilty , beyond a reasonable doubt " and all of that inconvenient baloney, and instead unapologetically presuming Breivik’s guilt, in order to make it more convenient for them to write their own little knee-jerk defenses of “libertarianism” for their own accolytes.

For example, Mr Rockwell’s piece starts with these words: “The violence perpetuated by Anders Behring Breivik in Norway …”

Thank you, Mr Rockwell, for once more reminding me of exactly why, after 9/11, I disassociated myself entirely from the “libertarian movement”!

Regards, onebornfree.