Feeling Isolated

I use to be a Socialist. I went from Socialist to NeoConservative to Conservative to Libertarian to Anarchist.

Likewise.

Nice road…I was always an anarchist…but then I am so not american…

Yet more proof that consciousness determines life, not like Marx states ‘life determines consciousness.’

Anyways back on topic: I am an Anarchist in a family full of Conservatives. Family is family, no matter politics you preach.

knew you’d like that one :smiley:

I agree with Giles’ advice, but intentionally alienating people can be a lot of fun as well (say, for example, with self-righteous military apologists).

Does anyone have a link to a thread on Mises where Nathyn debates?

Hippies and leftists are good folks to party with, but they generally aren’t much help if you want to do anything productive.

American leftists are rather humorless by comparison.

Well, what’s the problem ? Somebody subscribes to a nazi theory and so gets branded as a nazi - Surely you’re not whining about people calling a spade a spade ? Or complaining if racists are ostracized ? (Maybe you should invoke your right to free speech ? )

You got me, I’m a Nazi. I’ll go let the jews out of my basement now and give them some food.

Actually, I take that back. I’m not a Nazi (although Juan, you do seem quite fond of labour unions and surely you’re aware of the link between unions and fasicsm).

Moreover, did nobody ever tell you… correlation does not equal causation?

What ?? I live in a country run by labor unions and I thoroughly hate them. The thing is, you want to talk about your racist ‘theories’ but don’t want to be called a racist. That’s…inconsistent. It’s like advocating a free market and complaining if people call you libertarian.

Racism is what every American practices every day. Racism is viewing people differently due to skin colour. Thus, when every American cheered the election of a “black” president, they were expressing racist sentiment. In a race-free world, it would be all about Obama’s policies.

But there’s a difference between racism and racial bigotry. The former can be “good” (as in the case of positive discrimination in favour of racial groups) or bad (lynching blacks). But the latter is always bad.

Racism is DISCRIMINATING against an individual because of their skin color.

Back on topic. Here’s a story.

I once gave a friend of mine Walter Block’s Defending the Undefendable to read. She got up to reading the chapter about drug pushers and then decided to stop reading because the book “infuriated her”. When I spoke to her about it later, she said she couldn’t believe he was defending illegal drugs - because “illegal drugs are bad… that’s why they’re illegal”. When I pointed out that marijuana is safer than alcohol and tobacco, she went ballistic. Now I don’t bring up topic so openly because I don’t want to break up the friendship.

Long story short - years of brainwashing by public schools cannot be reversed in one or two conversations. You need to keep working on your friends for months, with gentle persuasion. I’m getting her to read Ayn Rand’s Atlas Shrugged now. Hopefully that’ll do what Block couldn’t.

What I’m saying is that if you think in terms of skin colour, you’re a racist. I’m treating racist as a value-neutral term.

On the other hand, if you go around lynching people or negatively discriminating against them because of their skin colour, you’re a racial bigot.

And why is discrimination a bad thing?