Well then let’s get down to it.
Is an American a murderer and a fascist nationalist? If yes, then who would want to be an American? If no, then surely Obama, Bush, the US government etc are not American and are targets to be denounced for their unAmericanism, and this would not be limited to executives but the entire government establishment including the Pentagon.
Do you agree?
Nope…it is racism and it can cause prejudice…
Who? Where?
MASSIVE STRAWMAN WARNING
Who? Source?
No it’s not. But I’m pointing out that roughly 25% of the the people who can vote in the US voted for mass murder.
Well, another 60 millions vote for the dems, which are just as militaristic as the republicans. That means virtually all the people who vote (50% of possible voters) vote for militarism.
Good for you, but I never said you were one of his supporters. You are taking it personally ?
Well, I’m not a nationalist so the expression “my/your country” is meaningless to me. I was born here but I consider that just bad luck. Now, a good deal of people who live here are indeed fascists and if you called argentina a fascist country I wouldn’t object, at all, since it would be a more or less correct generalization.
Maybe we should define national identity first. I am having a problem with it myself…
As are all statisms.
Oh come now Liberty Student. You’ve never, ever read other libertarians who believe that or at the very least imply it? No need to attack me, in any case.
I will find some examples.
An intelligent, libertarian response.
Of course. Cosmopolitanism is not new. I subscribe to it.
It’s a fact that Americans own guns. And I think there are some myths based on that fact. The biggest myth in my opinion is that gun ownership checks tyranny. Also, gun ownership was partly justified because it was needed to enable a “well regulated militia”, which in turn would avoid having a standing army. That plan seems to have failed as well…
than what pray tell?
I will concede this point…
Discriminating against short people when you need a tall person is one thing, throwing away all applicants that are of a specific race because they are not known for their hieght, these are two different things…
Sexist… HAHA!!!
There is a lot of variation in skin pigmentation.
Sizism!
Time is short (pun intended). I don’t have to interview everyone from a race of known shorties, looking for the exception to the rule.
Economizing means that we try to use the information we have to narrow down our poor choices. In most cases, racism is a product of ignorance and bigotry, a lack of knowledge. But not all cases. I’ll be honest, I am super racist+sexist. I don’t just like women exclusively, I am generally more attracted to black women than white or asian women. Is this not racism? Am I flawed because I don’t feel attraction to all races equally?
No that’s not racism : this is racism : “The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.”
I am using the wrong word, I apologize…
I meant to say they believed in a strong defense, not an aggressive military…
I am sure, if the way you paint it was the case why are you not living in the Canadian states of America…
You must have missed that over the last few years, though now that the commie is king here, they have all shut up…
There is a definite fault in the American people, but the way you talk about it is like we each have gone to the middle east to kill off a muslim ourselves, the American Culture is based around the gun, not the military, that is cosmopolitan and much more rooted in “old” European culture than American. This is why there is an ideological separation between country folk and the city people, the city people advocate very European policy, the country folk want to be left alone to live their lives. So let us first tackle what culture you really take issue with…
I am using the wrong word, I apologize…
I meant to say they believed in a strong defense, not an aggressive military…
I am sure, if the way you paint it was the case why are you not living in the Canadian states of America…
You must have missed that over the last few years, though now that the commie is king here, they have all shut up…
There is a definite fault in the American people, but the way you talk about it is like we each have gone to the middle east to kill off a muslim ourselves, the American Culture is based around the gun, not the military, that is cosmopolitan and much more rooted in “old” European culture than American. This is why there is an ideological separation between country folk and the city people, the city people advocate very European policy, the country folk want to be left alone to live their lives. So let us first tackle what culture you really take issue with…
The misnomer that the American Military is the American Culture is the reason why this discussion needs to take place…
Ahhh…
Now I see…
Thomas Paine once said, and I can quote this man…
“It is the duty of every Patriot to defend his country from its government.”
Being American has little to do with the government and more to do with the local community…
I am not especially happy with my government, and this is a chronic condition of mine for a LONG time now, this is why I stand against my government, because my country is better than its government and should cease allowing it to drag the country down further…
I have roots here, for longer than most people, and a delightful Mutt mix beyond that, and I have to say that when considering the government of the United States, you should treat it as a Mixture of England toward the Colonies of 1773 and Germany 1933…
It was half-hearted before. You should see the peace marches in European countries that weren’t even sending troops.
Absolutely not. But people need to decide if that is America or not. If it is, then I don’t know how anyone of conscience can call themselves American, and if it is not, then I think it is logical to denounce the actions of the US military and government as being unAmerican.
Are you saying because if America is as aggressive as I claim it is, then they would have captured Canada? Politically, economically and militarily they have. Our government no more obeys the popular will of the people than yours does. The difference is, our government for all intents and purposes reports to yours.
OK…
Are you saying that every black woman in the world is superior to one of any other race? You are saying you are “generally” more attracted to them…
Either way, your personal choices do not impede the rights of others, so it is a particular non issue…
I’m not really sure what you mean by American Culture, but I would say anyway that militarism is part of the American Culture.
I said most Americans are comfortable with the military and LS added that they are more than comfortable. You seem to take issue with that, but didn’t really provide any evidence to the contrary.
You should synthesize your Austrian epiphanies with valid leftist observations. It is quite easly done. Austrianism and leftism are not mutually exclusive. However, the story about your brother in the military is not about leftism. You should be sensitive to the psyche of your family and friends.