I don’t watch those debates, though I sometimes see the titles and pass over them. It seems to be a mutual battle not just a debunking on one side. I’ve just seen the Kirk Cameron banana video. [:D]
Because, in the US, they are taken seriously by a rather large percentage of the population.
How making a YouTube video about it helps is a mystery, though.
Ok, thanks. I’ve never thought criticizing religion or faith a good use of my time.
I think some of these folks have a lot of free time. I like that HTWW asks for money. Time is money. Get money, get paid.
haha. in the newest HTWW video, the earth is spinning correctly on a green screen
I wish more of the ‘you tube’ libertarian crowd agreed with that. I used to watch XOMiverse’s vids until he got obsessed with religion bashing. When some libertarians get into Randian-esque behavior politics (IE if you’re religous, youre automatically ‘irrational’) it makes me want to tune them out.
A lot of the loudest people in this movement are the least tolerant. Which is why they will never lead libertarianism out from the fringes. It will be done by people who understand that success in the market is about making other people happy.
Libertarianism was critical of revealed religion way before rand was born. For instance :
What’s problem with saying that irrational people are irrational ? Maybe it’s too politically incorrect to call a spade a spade ? So…we have ‘religious’ right wingers preaching political correctness when it suits their ends ?
Maybe they should be purged. In the name of tolerance, of course. So only the good, authoritarian and religious folks get to preach the true gospel : conservatism=libertarianism.
There is no problem with it. It’s not a good tactic if you are trying to make friends and influence people. If you want to be someone people don’t want to listen to, the best way to accomplish that is to attack people for their beliefs.
It’s not about political correctness, it’s about market savvy.
I presume you have a job. Do you criticize your customers who may be theists? Or do you reject working for or with theists? Do you think that would be a good decision as a market actor? Or does libertarian thought teach us that we don’t let those issues cloud our pursuit of rational self-interest?
In other words, if you are trying to turn a profit, it’s not in your interest to be insulting or critical of the personal beliefs of your clients. It’s irrelevant almost always to the nature of your transaction.
These guys don’t bear the cost of their video hosting, and thus, in some cases, suffer from a tragedy of the commons similar to blogspot demagogues. They can say what they want because they don’t have to build readership, and they aren’t digging into their own pockets to promote their views.
My 2 cents.
Everybody knows white Christian males are the new blacks.
You mean Aquinas and the Scholastics? I think you need to read your intellectual history, to be honest.
Are you as clueless as to claim that Aquinas has anything to do with libertarianism ? I suggest you don’t get your ‘intellectual history’ from the catholic/conservative party . You might as well believe what commies say about communism. Oh wait. You are an ideologue of the theocracy party…never mind.
Here, I’ll paste my signature for you. I suppose you’ve missed it before.
Thomas Aquinas : “'much more reason is there for heretics, as soon as they are convicted of heresy, to be not only excommunicated but even put to death.”
Libertarian indeed.
i think T Paine was born before Rand [:)]
He was retroactively channeling Rand, as was Aristotle!
metempsychosis
I’ve said before, I’m not catholic. I get my intellectual history from Rothbard, mostly. He seems to have been very fond of Aquinas, I suggest you read up on the history of the Austrian schoo, you’re clueless.
Appeal to authority much ? It’s obvious you’re not interested in truth but in toeing the party line.Suit yourself.
Why do you continue to play into his hand by responding?
The Mises marketplace has largely spoken, and he has been found wanting as a poster. He provides little of what others want, and thrives largely on the tolerance and patronage of the people (theist conservatives) he caricaturizes as authoritarians.
Which of course mirrors my own experience, that while I am not a theist, theists are far better hosts than atheists generally. Much more tolerant than the scientific secularists.
What are you talking about? You said I got my intellectual history from Catholics, I said I got it from Rothbard, I don’t see the appeal to authority there, you’re just annoyed because you can’t handle the fact that the Austrian school owes much of its existance to Catholics.
Because it’s fun watching the 39 year old single male from a very religious country rant about religion.