Question is what do hunter-gatherers do for beer?
Question is what do hunter-gatherers do for beer?
Please, everyone knows 4 Loko is the hunter-gatherer drink of choice, that and everclear doubles.
It’s because there’s nothing more individualist than being completely self-relient. Besides, there will be a collapse sooner than later so survivalism and primitive skills will be a necessity.
Question is what do hunter-gatherers do for beer?
Whatever they can ferment out of local sugar-high produce. Grapes and apples are the usual suspects. That is, if the hunter gatherers have at least a bucket: http://www.howtomakecider.com/cider_equipment.php.
- Whatever they can ferment out of local sugar-high produce. Grapes and apples are the usual suspects. That is, if the hunter gatherers have at least a bucket: http://www.howtomakecider.com/cider_equipment.php.
Yeah good luck enjoying that with wild yeast and lots of infection (brewing infection, not an actual medical infection) that you get without proper care and sanitzing, ha. Your cider/beer will taste like a horse blanket.
Your cider/beer will taste like a horse blanket.
Even now there is demand for such product - quite a lot of supermarkets sell “Natural Cider”, which tastes exactly as you describe. Anyway, that’s the price one pays for not cooperating with others 
Ok, so then they have booze.
Next question: what do they do for a dentist?
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Booze has very little survival value tho. It’s better to find water before beer.
That’s a subjective statement. When I’m camping I like to get drunk.
But when you’re camping you can go back to civ any time you want. I’m talking about the situation we’ll be in after the economy and/or civ collapses for good. Then your beer will have little to no survival value.
Both beer and cider are good sources of vitamins and other microelements…
Anyway, why this desire to turn a perfect opportunity for ancap (assuming it happens) into a Hobbesian caricature of it?
When you picture this “collapse” do you picture everyone around you dying? The world isn’t coming to an end. The cities will be there, the neighborhoods will be there, the communities will be there, essentially what one views as “society” will still be there. Everyone will be there. Production will not stop, people will still work, and as far as I know orderly people may still exchange the dollar simply based on it being on a medium of exchange. You see some Mad Max dystopian future where you are miles away from everyone, but it’s you who are going to leave miles away while civilization stays intact. Intact enough to where I can go to the store and buy beer.
Anyway, why this desire to turn a perfect opportunity for ancap (assuming it happens) into a Hobbesian caricature of it?
Wondering the same thing. This guy has a very negative view of the world to come. It’s hard to grasp when you have common sense and the ability to envision that people are not animals.
If a government collapses, it does create chaos. This is no caricature. It creates chaos because the government has a territorial monopoly on important services that would not be monopolized in such a manor in an ancap society. An ancap society would not have the same kind of chaos if one of many ancap service providers failed. It is ironic that Hobbesians support the thing that causes what they fear. This is one of the reasons why ancaps promote a peacefull intellectual revolution, not a violent abolishment of government. Let the government services stay in place but allow competition and we’ll see who consumers prefer.
Is the grid still there? And lets remember that the government is heavily involved in supplying and regulating power. A free society would probably have already solved this problem. But we don’t live in a free society so we have to live with many unnecessary dangers that the government has created because of things like its lousy power grid management. https://forum.freecapitalists.org/t/hunting-and-gathering/19677/30
My common sense tells me that this is a thin veneer: https://forum.freecapitalists.org/t/hunting-and-gathering/19677/31
Easy to say now, but in the midst of a survival situation, you will do things that you find unimaginable now, like cannibalism if need be. You won’t just say “Oh well, I’m going to probably die anyway so I’ll just give up now.”
And why do you find any of this disconcerting? Not following Austrian economics leads to these kinds of situations. Mmmmmm, yummy rats!:
Before civ collapses I’m going to buy as much gold and silver as I possibly can b/c that ensures survival. The Zimbabwe video proves it.
http://www.johnzerzan.net/articles/seize-the-day.html
Food for thought.