Libertarians For Obama

[hayekianxyz]

@Rubén

I am making my own point, not agreeing or disagreeing with yours.

You’re not making a point. You’re making a caricature out yourself.

[hayekianxyz]

@Rubén

I am making my own point, not agreeing or disagreeing with yours.

You’re not making a point. You’re making a caricature out yourself.

[liberty_student]

@GilesStratton

You mean like, the way they used to say the earth was flat and that the sun revolved around us? Yes, we should definately choose to listen to the enlightened masses, they’ve never proven to be wrong. Likewise for the state.

Giles, please be reasonable. Truth is about emotion. The Truth is subjective, just like right and wrong. Maybe the earth is flat. Maybe the sun does revolve around the earth. Who are we non-Obamas to make grand determinations like that? lol

[liberty_student]

@Rubén

If this is all you can offer as a rational, intelligent argument, you might as well close shop.

Truth hurts doesn’t it? You’re a victim because you choose to be one. Because you insist upon enslaving yourself and others, and then wonder why you can’t be free and prosperous.

And now you are here, arguing with me that I lack the humility to appreciate that McCain is a mass murderer and war criminal with character and a lot to contribute. Even when confronted with conflicting realities, you still won’t shake your mind loose from it’s chains, or let the scales fall from your eyes.

And so you will continue being a victim all of your life.

[rroopstr]

@liberty student

@Rubén

If this is all you can offer as a rational, intelligent argument, you might as well close shop.

Truth hurts doesn’t it? You’re a victim because you choose to be one. Because you insist upon enslaving yourself and others, and then wonder why you can’t be free and prosperous.

And now you are here, arguing with me that I lack the humility to appreciate that McCain is a mass murderer and war criminal with character and a lot to contribute. Even when confronted with conflicting realities, you still won’t shake your mind loose from it’s chains, or let the scales fall from your eyes.

And so you will continue being a victim all of your life.

I envision a much better world where victimhood will progressively be healed. You might want to block this historic process, but the winds of history are in favor of empowering prior victims to their human condition that has consistently been denied.

[hayekianxyz]

@Rubén

@liberty student

@Rubén

If this is all you can offer as a rational, intelligent argument, you might as well close shop.

Truth hurts doesn’t it? You’re a victim because you choose to be one. Because you insist upon enslaving yourself and others, and then wonder why you can’t be free and prosperous.

And now you are here, arguing with me that I lack the humility to appreciate that McCain is a mass murderer and war criminal with character and a lot to contribute. Even when confronted with conflicting realities, you still won’t shake your mind loose from it’s chains, or let the scales fall from your eyes.

And so you will continue being a victim all of your life.

I envision a much better world where victimhood will progressively be healed. You might want to block this historic process, but the winds of history are in favor of empowering prior victims to their human condition that has consistently been denied.

BULLSHIT.

[rroopstr]

@GilesStratton

BULLSHIT.

As Jon said yesterday night, that is a matter of opinion.

[hayekianxyz]

@Rubén

@GilesStratton

BULLSHIT.

As Jon said yesterday night, that is a matter of opinion.

No, it’s just nonsense. Obama will continue to grant power and transfer wealth all the same, perhaps to a few different people. The transfer or wealth and power will go on nonetheless.

As for the victims? Most of these groups aren’t victims, Obama simply represents them to be so to tug on the heart string of the “oppressors” in society and to gain the votes of these “victims”. In reality they’re just groups that Obama has chosen to give a priveledge in return for their vote.

The real victims are those that want rid of this parasite and yet are forced to endure this farce. Worse yet we have fools like you telling us to accept it and that we’re wrong.

[katja328]

@Rubén

I envision a much better world where victimhood will progressively be healed. You might want to block this historic process, but the winds of history are in favor of empowering prior victims to their human condition that has consistently been denied.

Oh please. Touch me, Obama, and I shall be healed.

Are you actually serious about the stuff that you write? It seems to me that you would be better off at some liberal democrat forum!

[rroopstr]

@katja328

Oh please. Touch me, Obama, and I shall be healed.

Are you actually serious about the stuff that you write? It seems to me that you would be better off at some liberal democrat forum!

Actually I am very comfortable here. Austrian Economics offers lots of explanations on why this financial crisis is the way it is, while other economics currents do not provide such satisfactory answers.

[Juan]

Ruben, you are intellectually bankrupt. You’re the supporter of a criminal. You still have to explain why the “opinions” of government are above the “opinions” of dissidents. Until you do that you’re a poster child for intellectual dishonesty.

[Jon_Irenicus]

You must learn about humility, a virtue you utterly lack. You must learn about accepting defeat. Your views were defeated by voters in America and those voters were supported by cheerful people all over the world. Are you pretending that you alone are right and that half of humanity alive is wrong and we all must learn from you? Come down and get real. Get used to the new world order of inclusion, not the exclusion you promote. T’es pas un peu fou?

Since when is truth decided by a ballot box? And since when is democracy anything but a sham, a delusion, basically choosing between two very undifferentiated products, being forced to consume one of the two regardless of how one votes? As Mencken said, Democracy is also a form of worship. It is the worship of Jackals by Jackasses.

-Jon

[Jon_Irenicus]

As Jon said yesterday night, that is a matter of opinion.

How many more times will you misquote me? I said that because you provided no substantive evidence to back what you said of me. I certainly do not disagree with Giles’ assessment…

-Jon

[hayekianxyz]

@Jon Irenicus

You must learn about humility, a virtue you utterly lack. You must learn about accepting defeat. Your views were defeated by voters in America and those voters were supported by cheerful people all over the world. Are you pretending that you alone are right and that half of humanity alive is wrong and we all must learn from you? Come down and get real. Get used to the new world order of inclusion, not the exclusion you promote. T’es pas un peu fou?

Since when is truth decided by a ballot box? And since when is democracy anything but a sham, a delusion, basically choosing between two very undifferentiated products, being forced to consume one of the two regardless of how one votes? As Mencken said, Democracy is also a form of worship. It is the worship of Jackals by Jackasses.

-Jon

That reminds me, I still need to read Mencken’s Notes on Democracy.

[Michael_S]

One of the reasons people like Obama is because they believe that once Obama becomes president then they and noone else will have to work (sic)! Talk about socialism!Someone made this comment to me this morning.

[Michael_S]

@liberty student

I’d like for you to explain, specifically what it is about Obama, that you Ruben, believe sets him apart. Politically.

@__**GilesStratton**__

He has the ability to get so much more done for the special interest groups than McCain does.

[Luis_Buenaventura]

I still don’t understand how people can blindlessly follow such unbacked hope. I persevere to show my parents facts ogf austrian economics on how he will not be able to save the economy, which angers them; they bellow in their anger that he signifies a change, though they fail to say that he will fix the economy(which obviously he won’t) without cringing. Democracy sucks.

[m.detrinquelague]

People are stupid. We are rare. This will not change.

[Michael_S]

@Michael S

I responded a couple days ago! I’m not online 24/7. No i am not taking anything personally. You’re not listening! Don’t judge people. is that so hard to understand?

@Nitroadict

I’m also not online 24/7,

I didn’t say you where! because of your “your just now responding” comment, I was letting you know that I wasn’t online 24/7

@Nitroadict

nor do I keep track of hypocrites in a petty dispute that wasn’t initiated by me,

it did seem that way. Whats with all the name calling? I am not a hypocrite!

@Nitroadict

unless you want to call a passing observation of opinion an “unfair judgment”

I told you that your “passing observation” was wrong, yet you still want to believe that it is right. Yes, you did make a (unfair) judgment.

@Nitroadict

I’m getting yelled at to not judge people, from someone who judges me?

I’m not yelling at you I’m trying to educate you! Sure I might challenge you or I might challenge your comfort zone/level or what have you but I never judged you! I know that I use the wrong word sometimes. I do not have a college edumacation or a PHD, MD, MBA, NFL, NBA, NCAA, IRS, CIA or NASA like half the users of this forum.

@Nitroadict

Unless you want to show me the gun that stops me from judging other people, please: move on

Your putting words in my mouth again! I never told you to stop judging other people. I was trying to tell you why you should not judge people, There is a big difference! You can live your life however you want to live it. Is it that bad or wrong to stick up for yourself? people disagree all the time, just because someone is different then you and you disagree with someone and, doesn’t give you the right to judge them. Instead of judging people try to understand them. Do whatever floats your boat, Just don’t judge me in the process ok?

[Michael_S]

@Jon Irenicus

You must learn about humility, a virtue you utterly lack. You must learn about accepting defeat. Your views were defeated by voters in America and those voters were supported by cheerful people all over the world. Are you pretending that you alone are right and that half of humanity alive is wrong and we all must learn from you? Come down and get real. Get used to the new world order of inclusion, not the exclusion you promote. T’es pas un peu fou?

Since when is truth decided by a ballot box? And since when is democracy anything but a sham, a delusion, basically choosing between two very undifferentiated products, being forced to consume one of the two regardless of how one votes? As Mencken said, Democracy is also a form of worship. It is the worship of Jackals by Jackasses.

-Jon

Democracy is a fraud but I’m curios… Couldn’t they actually use democracy when it benefits them (the few elites) the most ( I.E not rig the election, actually count the votes and etc)?