The last Schiff article posted at LRC was 10/16, four days before the blog post about the Plutocrat’s Ball.
If one looks at Peter Schiff’s archive, he has never gone so long as 2 months without some mention or article syndication at LRC since they started covering him.
Thanks for finally putting this thread together. Not enough info to gather any sort of opinion, so I’m going to wait to see if Schiff himself talks about why he was there. He could have been there for 100 different reasons, for all we know. I enjoyed reading the articles, by the way. Very interesting stuff.
This is like deciding about a girl based on “She went to a party my mommy [=Lew Rockwell] disapproves of”.
How about asking her out and actually talking to her?
If you would bother to read, listen, and watch the vast body of work Peter has publicly available for free, you will discover [gasp!] that he consistently calls for less govt, blames govt for our economic problems, wants to close the dept of energy, of education, of everything basically, and bring back all our troops.
He is a staunch Ron Paul supporter, having actively worked for Ron when he campaigned for president. Paul was a recent guest on his radio show.
If Peter Schiff is part of a conspiracy to divert people away from the Mises Institute then, at least with me, he has failed miserably, since he, probably more than anyone else, pointed me towards Austrian Economics and set me on the road to eventually reading Mises, Rothbard, Hayek, Hazlitt, Hoppe, etc.
I have more info, but I am not trying to make a case. I am trying to substantiate my statement about Lew Rockwell’s site, which I believe I did.
Whether anyone else believes Schiff is tight with Koch or not, irrelevant to me. I doubt anyone does the sort of casual mental cataloguing which allowed me to track this without actually tracking it.
I was famous long before this. And I don’t think I uncovered anything. I just drew an opinion from what is already out there.
I knew some Peter Schiff fans would probably deny and attack the messenger etc rather than deal with what I wrote, and the articles/facts I posted. If you bothered to do some research, I was into Peter Schiff before you were. I have hundreds of hours listening to him speak, including his radio show live for over a year. I know exactly who he is. And I have a very good idea of who he swims with now.
I don’t recall anyone saying he was part of a conspiracy. Do you?
I have no idea. It’s very hard to draw an accurate estimate on intent.
I don’t know that he switched sides, as much as he is an investor and speaker at secret Koch events, which makes him a Koch agent (no one said double agent) which would make him persona non grata around LRC based on how everyone else associated with Koch gets treated there.
A. I’m supposed to research how much Peter Schiff you watched? SMH.
B. You claimed two things: 1. Lew is pissed off at Peter for going to a Koch party. Maybe, maybe not. You then claim a non sequitor 2. Peter had joined the ranks of the Kochians
How much of Peter Schiff’s time being out of the LRC circuit can be attributed to his new expanded radio podcasts (whether they are successful or not) and the fact that he’s setting up a foreign office to leave the U.S. if he has to?
You had stated that Peter Schiff was a Koch agent. How so? That kind of statement requires more than just an absence from LRC. Is this just a matter of guilt by association? Has Peter Schiff moved to favor the Fed? Has Peter Schiff moved away from gold as a standard of economic currency? Has Peter Schiff denounced Austrian Economics?
Best I can tell is that Peter Schiff, who was running for political office, attended some meetings with an organization known for its political contributions to Republican candidates. Schiff ran as a Republican. Seems pretty straight forward to me.
I’m not saying that it’s not possible that Peter Schiff, Republican Political Candidate, was not or could not be influenced by those in the Koch organization. Since he lost his election, what has he done to earn the title of Koch Agent other than attending some meetings? What part of his message has changed? Just looking for some tangible nugget of information so that I can be aware of what Schiff might push either now or in the future.
None of that effects reprinting his articles or referencing him, or his videos on the blog.
Guys, please read what I have written, and do more than superficial research into this before questioning me. As I stated, there is more, but I didn’t come to character assassinate Peter Schiff. I don’t particularly care. I didn’t think saying he was a Koch agent was particularly outrageous, although I underestimated the power of fanboyism by several degrees.
I posted the timeline and facts to back up my claim about LRC. For someone who got a lot of continuous coverage there, he is conspicious by his absence. When we hit the 6 month mark, you guys come back and tell me it is still just a coincidence, mmmkay?
Dave, you haven’t presented any case but to attack the messenger. You didn’t address what I had written, or the facts I posted. Neither did KC Farmer. This is very sloppy and shallow debate.
Also, trying to hide behind claims I am ad hom’ing you, doesn’t get you out of jail for the nonsense where you made a claim about how much I knew about Schiff, and then had the audacity to turn around and claim you didn’t have an obligation to know the thing you claimed.
You’re behaving like a fan boy, and not someone who is interested in thinking clearly and rationally.
You attacked me and not the argument, at least man up and take responsiblity for what you posted. This “I’m too good for this discussion” stuff doesn’t fool anyone, it’s the oldest evasion tactic in the book. Back up what you have written below.
I’m no fanboy, nor am I trying to bust your balls on the subject. It’s just that the term Koch Agent is rather strong in its implications. I’d probably be just as cautious had he been called a Ludwig von Mises Agent. At least to me, the reference to agent implies that he’s not a free thinking or acting individual.
Pointing out his absence from LRC is a valid point, but I don’t know whether we can speculate further. I haven’t seen anything from Lew Rockwell delaring Peter Schiff to be unwelcome, but you’re dead on about the rift between Rothbard/Rockwell/Mises Institute and Koch/Cato Institute. I just don’t really know where Peter Schiff fits in that dynamic.
A deeper read into the issue requires entry into the skewed bias world of the Left and Right. Not a pleasant journey. I think most here were probably hoping for you to save us from that. Thanks for at least pulling the information together to show others what you had meant in the previous post.