LOL, coincidence?maybe not.
Nobody’s mentiond the freakin Beatles or Velvet Underground yet!!
Here are probably my two favorite rock songs of all time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-Q9D4dcYng
Actually, I won’t suggest a VU song, because they can get a bit risqué, so I’ll sub a couple Television songs:
The Beatles are garbage, and their music has some odd occult elements I don’t like (I prefer any occult elements up front, not hidden). I’ve come across some articles referencing them to Theodor Adorno of the Frankfurt School as an influence. You can take that with a grain of salt.
On the other hand I don’t mind a Christian mystic naming his band after Aleister Crowley’s 93 current, or the current of Thelema.
I prefer any occult elements up front, not hidden
I usually don’t really care about lyrics, so it doesn’t matter one way or the other to me. You do know what occult means don’t you?!?!
yah it is kinda weird no one mentioned on of the greatest rock bands in history.
my fav beatles song prob has to be “don’t let me down”.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZj_bCNVvGw
it is certainly not their most ground breaking or experimental work. but i just love the emotion in lennon’s voice and billy preston on the keyboard.
Aye, I’ve always loved that too.
Just re learned the song “Rain” on bass; like “Don’t let me down” it’s one of those non albu, B side goodies. I love Paul’s bass playing, unfortunately that amazing bass guitar of his (Hofner Bass) runs for like 1K, and the George / John’s Rickenbacher’s run for about the same.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard82.html
“Since great jazz requires great melodic songs at its base, the degeneration of jazz after World War II went hand in hand with the degeneration of the popular song, which finally descended into rock.” Murray Rothbard
Rothbard weren’t rock’n roll guys, I quess?
Weird, how in the hell you can call Charlie Parker, Charles Mingus, John Coltrane, or even people like Ornette Coleman “jazz degeneration” is silly to me. I think there were articles how Shoenberg and even Stravinsky were signs of “decadent” and “debauched” music that wasn’t doing music correct. I don’t get people most of the time.
Reading over this thread there seems to be an unusually high number of prog fan’s. At least, a lot more than would come from a random sample of the public. An interesting coincidence, perhaps a correlation?
If my avatar hasn’t already given it away for you, I’m a huge progressive rock/metal fan. I also enjoy classic rock, heavy metal and even a little death metal. I’m a big fan of Dream Theater, Symphony X, Porcupine Tree and Opeth.
‘Weird, how in the hell you can call Charlie Parker, Charles Mingus, John Coltrane, or even people like Ornette Coleman “jazz degeneration” is silly to me.’
They are playing a completely different genre. They can call it what they like but it’s nothing like the first 25 years of jazz. To Louis Armstrong it was as if someone was speaking to him in Chinese. I agree with Rothbard 100% on the issue of jazz, but I feel that 50’s and 60’s rock is probably the closest new genre to trad jazz - it has the same origins and the same feel, just in a slightly different way.
Note I’m not disparaging the artists you listed, I’m just pointing out that it was a very big shift and that someone who likes early jazz isn’t any more guaranteed to like bebop and its derivations than someone who likes blues would like modern pop.
They are playing a completely different genre.
If they are, so be it. So was Debussy from Bach, or even Beethoven from Bach for that matter. All that matters is that relevant music is being produced. If you want disparage Charles Mingus, John Coltrane, Stravinsky, Shoenberg, Nono, John Cage, The Beatles, or The Velvet Underground, TheSex Pistols, Kanye West, or Lady Gaga for the sake of “sound” economic thiniking, it seems a bit odd to me. Why are people doing this?
Television is a good band, but the Velvet Underground is just something else 
Speaking of Coleman, Mingus, and Coltrane, here’s one of my favs, Sonny Sharrock:
Genres aren’t so concrete. They are more like ideas, and vague aesthetics then set boundaries for artists. There’s no reason to take them too seriously. A good artist has influences from all over the place appropriately placed.
For example, one can listen to Charlie Feathers then listen Elvis Presley. Sure you can call both of them rockabilly, but does it mean thats all they are? Charlie Feathers takes more of a folky country blues take on that sound, I would compare him to Jimmie Rodgers or Blind Blake then before Presley.
Musical taste is entirely subjective. Be happy with whatever you get out of it.
Propaganda, you scare me to death.
Defending this corruption on which you are sat
You tell me what to think, you tell me this and that
Freedom is O.K. you scum but make sure its never used In your defence of liberty I always stand accused And your shadow in the sun always give a shock While the hate mail rises like some kind of moral rock Propaganda, you scare me to death Propaganda, you scare me to death I know you want to lock me up and see justice done You say get the army in, you hope that day will come You will give me something to think about Right between my eyes Then youll see your freedom the day that freedom dies
I cant see many reds underneath my bed But the fascists in the letter-box are messing up my head You tell me Ive got rights, the same for rich and poor
But youre behind the police when theyre knocking down my door
I’ve had rhcp stuck in my head all day:
Currently listening to The Prodigy - The Fat of the Land on 12" – http://www.discogs.com/Prodigy-The-Fat-Of-The-Land/release/26194
Genres aren’t so concrete. They are more like ideas, and vague aesthetics then set boundaries for artists. There’s no reason to take them too seriously. A good artist has influences from all over the place appropriately placed.
That’s a pretty good way to sum up things. Nice recomendations by the way. Not familiar with either of those two fellas, but they were both pretty darn good selections you picked out.
I have just started getting into this bass guitarist named Jaco Pastorius:
Gah, I fail at embedding youtube stuff here. How do I do that?
D.I.T.C.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxGVdpZnGsI
Mostly O.C. today.
For any Yardbird fan (and I am a big one), cool news:
http://www.easyaction.co.uk/detail/EARS035
Also Kim Deal on “real bass guitar players” funny and true: