Why Didn't More Jews Falsify Their Identities?

In the movie Shoah, a former concentration camp officer told the filmmaker that when they commanded some of the Jewish people in Treblinka to haul away the many bodies of those dead from illness or worse (right in the early days), many of them bluntly said they’d rather be shot. Now, everybody wanted to be rid of corpses that were causing stenches across a large range, but many of the detainees did not want to give an undignified treatment to the dead bodies of one of their own. So the camp guards themselves cleaned up the corpses, and had to physically force the few of the Jewish detainees who were even remotely willing into helping them.

However, all modern Jews would have had to descend from those that didn’t convert.

Still a Jew regardless if their parents or grandparents converted.

True, although after many centuries, I suspect that a family whose Jewish ancestors converted to Christianity would have forgotten their Jewish identity, and thus wouldn’t be counted as Jewish as far as anyone knows.

And did the camp guards shoot the Jews who refused to “help”?

That depends on how you define “Jew”, doesn’t it?

The guards were young boys, who were bluffing. When each new set of recruits for camp guard arrived, they all sat down on their suitcases and sobbed quietly. They were emotionally quite weak for that job, being young teenagers or very young men, and could not bear the incredible stench of Treblinka, the nauseating nature of their job, the filth in which they would have to conduct their long hours of duty, and the terrible toxic gas that came out from the ground through the soil and into the air.

Of course, in time, some of them hardened into the worst sort of killers, but their superiors knew that young men are emotionally weak - nobody was assigned the full set of tasks. Each only did a small part, without having to directly participate in killing - almost everybody but the main man in charge of the camp was off the hook.

That depends on how you define “Jew”, doesn’t it?

It’s not something that involves a complex discussion. A Jew is a Jew by blood. You can find a Jewish atheist, he’s still a Jew. I don’t know what’s with this forum and it’s problem with accepting the Jewish ethnicity.

Also, most people can spot a Jew on physical appearances

A Jew is a Jew by blood.

Ridiculous. This is real life, not Harry Potter.

Jews can have any skin color ranging from pale to dark brown. There is no scientific instrument or test to measure “jewishness” or to detect those who are “jew by blood”, because these terms are devoid of objective meaning. There is no Jewish gene.

Or do you actually have any scientific evidence for the existance of your hypothetical “judar”?

Ha ha ha. This falls into the top two most clueless statements I’ve read all week.

Ha ha ha. This falls into the top two most clueless statements I’ve read all week.

Your rebuttal is truly devastating. Clearly, your superior intellect identifies you as one of the pure-strained Jews.

Not all Jews are obviously Jewish as Rothbard. Just listen to his lectures.

Your rebuttal is truly devastating. Clearly I’m no match for your superior Jew intellect.

Rebuttal to what? A snide remark? You have not provided anything worth refuting except regurgitating statements that Jews somehow aren’t really Jews.

A Jew is a Jew by blood.

What is the difference between a Jew and a Semite? And what is Sammy Davis Jr?

I don’t know what’s with this forum and it’s problem with accepting the Jewish ethnicity

I don’t understand why so many people care that it exists at all, honestly it is a non issue; and yet we have all these cranky loopy ad hoc revised histories and genetic theories to single out what a “true Jew” is. It is odd indeed.

You have not provided anything worth refuting except regurgitating statements that Jews somehow aren’t really Jews

Produce a scientific test to measure Jewishness, specifically one that measures the concentration of jewdichlorians in the “jew blood”.

Or admit that it’s only a fantasy of yours.

What is the difference between a Jew and a Semite? And what is Sammy Davis Jr?

Sammy Davis Jr has a hooked nose. He’s clearly from Wales.

Honestly it is pop culture and “history channel” science taken far to seriously. Was Jesus an alien who built the pyramids to sink up with the Mayan calander? Tune in next time for buzz words that cause ratings.

You can read my response from a previous thread about this. There’s the evidence you might be looking for.

Honestly it is pop culture and “history channel” science taken far to seriously.

I don’t take anything on the History Channel seriously. Especially on Nazism. Run a show on emotion and myths, and get ratings and a crowd.

Neo-nazis need it to define an enemy.

“Neo-nazis need it to define an enemy.”

It’s you who are defining an enemy, all those who disagree with the official allied story you put them together as “Neo-Nazis”.

And, any honest truth-seeking person would have titled the post differently. Something like;

Why were jews accused/detained?

And what were the real conditions of the detention camps where they were detained?

And, is it true that they had swimming pools, perform music, theater and were put to work only after the war like the rest of the country?

And is it true the Red-Cross visited the camps?

And is it true the 6 million number was used in WW1 in exact the same way but was forgotten in the press?

A honest person would start from the beginning, listening to both sides and trying to fix the pieces of the puzzle, never in the middle. If you don’t know why they were detained and what that meant, what place were they being taken to, you won’t understand anything ever.

I doubt this is true. Although I would agree that most Jews can spot a Jew on physical appearances, but also that most Koreans can spot a Korean on physical appearances and that most black people can spot other black people on physical appearance.